An electromagnetic pulse weapon is a large nuclear explosion detonated

in a high altitude outside the Earth's atmosphere.

If one of these were detonated over, say, Taipei,

you would find out that instantly everything in Taipei stopped working and again

phones laptops iPads that's bad enough hospital equipment cars every single

car would stop the whole city infrastructure is completely frozen.

Greg Autry is director of space leadership, policy, and business at Arizona State University's

Thunderbird School of Global Management.

He's the co-author of Red Moon Rising, how America will be China on the

final frontier. Space is the ultimate high ground. It took eight years the first time for

Kennedy. You think you could do that 60 years later

with everything that we've learned,

but we haven't done it in eight years.

We are at risk of having the Chinese eclipsing us.

While the American space industry is experiencing a rare industrial boom, China has committed

massive resources to its space effort.

Just what would losing the second space race mean for America and its allies. This is American

thought leaders and I'm Yanya Kellick. Before we start I'd like to take a moment to

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As you all know, inflation is getting worse.

The Fed raised rates for the fifth time this year,

and Fed Chairman Jerome Powell is telling Americans to brace themselves for potentially more pain ahead.

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