Welcome to Betrayal Trauma Recovery, BTR.org. I'm Anne. I'm sure you remember what it was like when you were searching for help, maybe for your husband, hoping to find the right program or therapist. That's why I started podcasting. I supported my husband through seven years of pornography addiction recovery and not one therapist during that time told me I was experiencing emotional

and psychological abuse and sexual coercion. I didn't want any other woman on the planet to be in

the dark. If you're like the majority of my listeners, you're experiencing the type of abuse that's

invisible and difficult to wrap your head around. Your husband is using porn or having

affairs or lying to you, and you're getting the same bad advice about how to improve communication

or your relationship. If you need support from women who totally understand, check out our daily

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and will help save other women from getting the wrong kind of help, like a couple

program that will make this type of abuse worse. For those of you who follow or subscribe to this

podcast, thank you so much. Your support means so much to me. I'm very excited to have my new friend.

We're going to call her Lacey on today's episode. We spent the weekend together at a conference

for abuse victims. I'll cover what makes the best emotional abuse support groups online in just a

minute. There are four things that you really need to watch out for. But before, I want to

welcome Lacey. Welcome. Hello, Ann. Thanks for having me.

Initially, just friends and maybe counselors and books, I would read them and listen to it, and it just

didn't resonate with me. So as I dug further, I started learning words like betrayal trauma.

You know, I didn't even know that's what I had. So I didn't know

those are the words I needed to search for. I just started stumbling across things. So I had to

weed through a lot of things that were not helpful before I could get to the things that were.

Even with books, they suggested, sometimes you're just not in a place where you can sit down

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