Here's What the IPCC Report Actually Said About Carbon Dioxide Removal

Drilled

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🗓️ 12 July 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Everyone else might have moved on but we're still plodding through the latest IPCC report over here. Carbon dioxide removal, or CDR, came up all over this report, and because the summary is vastly more positive about the potential of this tech than the rest of the report (thanks in no small part to influence from Saudi Arabia and the U.S.), I wanted to bring together a more complete picture of what the report actually says about it. Nikki Reisch and Carroll Muffett from the Center for International Environmental Law join to help.

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0:00.0	Welcome back to Drilled I'm Amy Westervalt.
0:13.0	You might remember I was slowly making my way through the most recent IPCC report.
0:19.3	That's the mitigation report which came out in April.
0:22.1	Well, it's almost 3,000 pages and between life and work, it's taken me a while.
0:28.4	But today I want to get into one of the main topics I saw a lot of people focusing on in the report.
0:34.2	Carbon dioxide removal.
0:36.6	People really kind of saw what they wanted to see about CDR in this report.
0:42.0	Some heralded it as proof that CDR will in fact save us.
0:47.4	So no need to look into anything else.
0:50.5	Others claimed the IPCC had actually said quite the opposite.
0:54.3	And I wondered how could that be?
0:56.8	It was the first time I can remember people having that divergent of views about what the IPCC report actually said.
1:04.7	For all its inscrutability, the IPCC report is generally not ambiguous about what the science says.
1:12.9	So I read the report with a particular interest in all the places where CDR showed up.
1:18.2	And what the underlying data and research in the report actually said about it.
1:23.4	Lucky for me, the smart folks over at the Center for International Environmental Law or CL
1:28.8	had the same idea and put together a brilliant report on this subject.
1:33.4	Today I'm joined by the architects of that report, Nikki Reich, Director of the Climate
1:37.8	and Energy Program at CL, and Carol Muffet, the organization's president and CEO.
1:43.4	They walked me through a whole bunch of the discrepancies on carbon removal tech in this report,
1:48.5	and were able to actually answer the question, what did the IPCC say about the potential of this talk?
1:56.1	That's coming up right after this quick break.
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