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History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps

HoP 309 - Hooked on Classics - Italos and the Debate over Pagan Learning

History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps

Peter Adamson

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Society & Culture:philosophy

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2018

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

The trial of John Italos and other signs of Byzantine disquiet with the pagan philosophical tradition.

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Best of us all the best he be leic, go go, the Hi, I'm Peter Adamson, and you're listening to the History of Philosophy Podcast, brought to you with

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the support of the Philosophy Department at King's College London and the

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LEMU in Munich online at history of philosophy.net. Today's episode,

0:28.6

Hooked on Classics Itilos and the debate over pagan learning.

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Suppose you meet someone at a party who recommends a new restaurant that has just opened in your neighborhood.

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You make a mental note to go there next time you get a chance.

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As your chat continues, this same party guest begins to argue that the 1969 moon landing was faked by the government.

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In addition to excusing yourself to go fresh in your drink, you would probably also tear up that mental note about the restaurant.

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This might be a mistake, given that partisans of wacky conspiracy theories are probably able to appreciate good food just as well as the rest of us,

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yet it's almost irresistible to downgrade the value of testimony in this way.

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We want to take advice from people who are reliable, and when someone makes a dramatic lapse in judgment, we are apt to dismiss that person's other beliefs.

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Which raises the question, why would the Byzantine's have been interested in anything that pagan philosophers had to say?

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As deeply committed Christians, they were convinced that Plato, Aristotle and other Hellenic

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thinkers were wrong about the most important beliefs of all.

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They were mistaken about the true nature of God and knew nothing of the salvation offered by Christ.

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So why treat them as philosophical authorities, having their works laboriously copied out by hand

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and made the subject of extensive study and commentary?

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Why not start from scratch, or rather exclusively Christian

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Christian basis for doing philosophy and theology.

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As we know, the same dilemma confronted thinkers of Latin and Christendom, and to some extent the solutions

2:04.2

devised there were also echoed in Byzantium.

2:07.7

One strategy was to compartmentalize.

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