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Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Hope for Cynics with Jamil Zaki

Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.915.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Is cynicism getting in the way of our progress? In “Hope for Cynics”, Stanford psychologist Dr. Jamil Zaki, explores how cynicism is keeping us hopeless and inactive, which prevents us from creating real, lasting change. Zaki shares his ideas on how to escape the “cynicism trap” and become critical thinkers capable of hope and trust. Credits: Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, friends. Welcome, delighted to have you joining me today. My guest, Jamil Zaki,

0:09.5

has written a book that I think some of y'all might need. It's called Hope for Cynics. And I love

0:16.0

this book because Jamil Zaki regards himself as naturally prone to cynicism.

0:21.5

And he has done a complete study of this topic.

0:24.7

And I think he has so much wisdom to share for you and the people in your life.

0:29.1

So let's step in.

0:31.4

I'm Sharon McMahon.

0:33.2

And here's where it gets interesting.

0:36.7

Thank you so much for being here.

0:38.4

It's my pleasure.

0:39.7

You have a book that is very needed and necessary at this moment in time,

0:44.5

and I bet you are keenly aware of why we need hope for cynics.

0:50.1

I know why I needed it.

0:51.3

I'll tell you that much.

0:52.4

You know, I wrote this book because it's something that I was struggling with. Cynicism is a longstanding problem for me. And I guess I wanted to explore what it was doing to me and what I could do about it. And I quickly learned that this is by no means just a problem that I face, but one that is nearly universal. Yeah, no, not at all.

1:12.4

I hear frequently from people how difficult it is not to descend into cynicism, that it's something

1:19.3

that people have to, like, actively fight against because it seems like, no matter what I do,

1:24.6

nothing changes, no matter who I've ever, nothing changes. Like, I tried that

1:28.2

thing and nothing happened. You know, either people tend to fall into like conspiratorial thinking,

1:33.5

or they tend to feel like this sense of nihilism of like nothing will ever change or like

1:38.5

everybody's corrupt. You're probably very intimately familiar with all of the different ways

1:43.4

that cynicism sort of rears its ugly head.

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