Hour 3 - David Zweig Covid Blockbuster
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
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4.3 • 11.1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features an engaging interview with investigative journalist David Zweig, who discusses his new book, "An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions." Zweig shares insights into the failures of American public policy during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly focusing on the detrimental impact of prolonged school closures. He highlights the lack of scientific evidence supporting these closures and the political pressures that influenced decisions, including the role of teachers' unions.
The hosts and Zweig delve into the revisionist history surrounding the pandemic response, emphasizing the importance of demanding evidence-based policies. Zweig recounts his experiences with silent dissent among medical professionals and the challenges he faced in reporting the truth. He hopes his book will serve as a corrective to the narrative and arm readers with the knowledge to recognize and challenge misinformation in future crises.
Clay and Buck also discuss the broader implications of the pandemic on public trust in institutions, with Zweig expressing his disillusionment with the legacy media and the left establishment. He shares how his worldview has been fundamentally altered by the events of the pandemic and the dishonesty he encountered.
Additionally, the hour covers the legal dispute between Harvard University and the Trump administration over the withholding of billions in taxpayer dollars. The hosts critique the extensive federal funding of universities and question the necessity of such subsidies, especially given the ideological biases and discriminatory practices at institutions like Harvard.
The discussion includes the ethical concerns surrounding NPR's government funding and its role as a competitor in the media landscape. Clay and Buck argue for the elimination of taxpayer subsidies to NPR, highlighting the unfair advantage it provides in the marketplace.
The hour concludes with listener interactions, including VIP emails and talkbacks, where the hosts address various topics and engage with their audience. They emphasize the importance of accountability and transparency in both education and media funding.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program. And we are joined now by David Zweig, investigative journalist and author. He's got a brand new book. I think you guys are going to love it. I've already started to check it out. We've got it at the home. Buck is holding it up right now. An abundance of caution American |
| 0:21.8 | schools, the virus, and a story of bad decisions. David, thanks for joining us in our New York City |
| 0:28.6 | studio. I know we've had you on before. And I think it's fair to say that a lot of your reporting |
| 0:35.2 | was not necessarily well received by people on the left and that you are not some far right wing conspiracy theorist. |
| 0:45.7 | You just did something wild. |
| 0:47.2 | You looked at the data and you were willing to write about what the data showed. |
| 0:51.6 | And you were, as Buck and I have both been profoundly angered and |
| 0:56.1 | still angry over the failures of American public policy as it pertains to COVID. |
| 1:01.8 | What pushed you to write this book and what do you hope that people take from it? |
| 1:06.7 | That's a very good assessment. |
| 1:09.7 | Yeah, in the beginning, very early on, it seemed reasonable to me. |
| 1:15.7 | I wasn't knowledgeable about what was happening. |
| 1:18.1 | I live right outside New York City. |
| 1:19.7 | Okay, the schools are closed. |
| 1:21.0 | Everything shut down. |
| 1:22.0 | But very quickly after that, I watched my kids just wilting away in the kind of the gray light of their Chromebooks |
| 1:29.7 | of sitting alone in their bedrooms. And I was like, this isn't going to work for a long period of time. |
| 1:35.8 | Like this, how can this be? And, um, and from there, I just started kind of researching and digging in. |
| 1:42.9 | I was in the middle of writing a book on a totally different topic at the time, but this was |
| 1:47.4 | just so crazy what was happening. |
| 1:50.2 | I wanted to learn more about what was going on. |
| 1:53.2 | And very quickly, I started to speak with experts in Europe and elsewhere because you |
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