AI is the ultimate and natural complementary technology to crypto.

I think it'll 100x the usage of crypto and vice versa.

And I actually believe that both technologies don't really reach their full potential without each other.

Welcome to Banklist, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance.

And today on Bankless, we're exploring the frontier of AI agents and how they are going to take over first our blockchains and then the world, all using Crypto Rails to do it. We have a crypto AI investor on the show today who we wanted to bring on to understand how someone who's managing capital, how they are

investing in the crypto AI frontier because there are a bunch of different ways to do it. There are

some projects out there, some platforms that all have tokens so you can allocate your capital there.

But now there's these AI agent meme coin influencer things, and apparently you can

allocate capital over there. And so we wanted to get kind of download the trenches, the trench version

of the crypto AI frontier as to what is investable in this space. And what we got out of this

conversation, I think is something much more. I think now Ryan and I are both maybe fearful in the

same way that we were post our episode with Eliezer Yudkowski a little bit about how the AI

agents are taking over, but definitely also with some excitement and at least interest about this

AI agent frontier. Ryan, what would you say are your big takeaways from this episode?

I mean, my big takeaways is this is sort of fitting the pattern for me of like it looks like a toy,

and so a whole bunch of people are going to dismiss it and just it'll be like,

oh, AI agent meme coins, cute.

Well, crypto delivers yet another non-use case to the world.

And yet, and yet, there is something incredible

here, something profound, something powerful, something like world shaping. Think about the

ability for an AI agent to, like, maybe create a meme coin, which is what it's doing now,

but give it a harder prompt, create a country, you know, create a religion,

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