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Beyond Today

How do you stop a terror attack?

Beyond Today

BBC

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2020

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Sudesh Amman had been released from prisons days before he stabbed two people in a Islamist-related terror incident in London on February 2. Within minutes of the attack armed police shot him dead. In 2018 Amman was charged with spreading extremist material but was released after serving half of his sentence. Since the attack took place the government has announced emergency legislation will be introduced to end the automatic early release from prison of terror offenders. In this episode we speak to the BBC’s Daniel De Simone who was at the Old Bailey when Amman was charged in 2018. We also talk to Richard Walton, the Met Police’s former head of counter-terrorism, about how to prevent terror attacks. Producer: Alicia Burrell Mixed by Emma Crowe Editor: Philly Beaumont

Transcript

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BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

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Hello, I'm Tina Dehealy.

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Welcome to Beyond Today, where we ask one big question

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about one big story.

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Today, how do you stop a terror attack? It was a Sunday afternoon just after two o'clock when gunshots were fired on Stretum High Street in London.

0:44.0

I just heard what I thought was a car backfiring and then it happened multiple times and I was kind of really confused by that.

0:53.0

Not long afterwards several police cars arrived.

0:56.0

Armed officer shouted at everyone to get inside the shops that line the road.

1:00.0

We can start moving backwards very quick.

1:02.0

Stay back!

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Stay back!

1:06.0

Eyewitnesses say a man wearing a camouflage jacket and grey jogging bottoms

1:10.0

had walked into a shop, stolen a knife, and stabbed people at random on the busy street.

1:17.0

I've seen the guy was running as well while he was wearing...

1:21.0

What sort of the guy was running?

1:23.0

The young male wearing something they say was the vest.

1:27.0

And behind him, three...

1:29.0

It looked like he was wearing a suicide vest.

1:32.0

People say they saw plain-clothed officers shoot the man outside a boot pharmacy.

1:37.0

Everything happened in a matter of minutes. We now know that the attacker was Soudes Amman. He was 20 years old and was released

1:52.4

from prison just days earlier after serving time for spreading extremist material.

1:58.0

Amal was under police surveillance and being gunfire. The suicide vest we now know was a fake. In a statement given that night,

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