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🗓️ 23 April 2025
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Since Trump unleashed Elon Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service on the federal government, Post reporter Hannah Natanson has been deluged with messages from hundreds of federal workers. They fear for their jobs and are worried about the damage DOGE could do to crucial programs as it tries to make massive spending cuts across the government.
Colby Itkowitz speaks with Hannah about what it has been like to be on the receiving end of these messages, what federal workers are most concerned about, and what DOGE may look like now that Elon Musk is stepping back from leading the initiative.
Today’s show was produced and mixed by Ted Muldoon. It was edited by Peter Bresnan.
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0:00.0 | Okay. These were just a sampling of the messages that I got from current federal workers across the government in the last 24 hours. They come from all different kinds of departments, the State Department, the Army Corps of Engineers, the U.S. Geological Survey, the Veterans Affairs, the Treasury, you name it. |
0:20.1 | Hannah Natanson covers the federal workforce |
0:22.3 | and the Department of Government Efficiency for the Post. |
0:25.6 | There's another employee that may reach out to you. |
0:28.1 | He got a really bad deal. |
0:29.5 | I'm concerned with the changing mission of the IRS. |
0:32.1 | These decisions seem to be driven not by Congress. |
0:34.4 | I just saw a Facebook post from a friend who was just dropped |
0:36.9 | from an NIH |
0:37.6 | melanoma study. Major changes to the Bureau. It's a nuke. There is another employee that may reach out |
0:42.3 | to you. I've got another friend who was laid off. She's another of us fed. We won't have |
0:46.5 | enough people to execute. We just found out one of my best work buddies is taking the resignation. |
0:51.8 | Man, this is such a bummer. I think we've mostly just become dead to all of it. |
0:58.3 | In the months since inauguration day, Hannah's been one of the reporters who's been flooded by |
1:02.5 | tips from federal employees on messaging apps like Signal. Since late January, just on Signal alone, |
1:08.4 | not counting folks who have emailed me or called me on my cell phone, |
1:12.1 | I have had 785 federal workers reach out to me. |
1:15.9 | And they're all reaching out to say things like what's going on at their agencies, |
1:19.7 | what's going on with their personal professional lives. |
1:22.8 | Since President Donald Trump unleashed Doge on the federal government |
1:25.6 | with the goal of reducing so-called waste, tens of thousands of workers have lost their jobs. |
1:31.1 | Tens of thousands more are worried they are next on the chopping block. |
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