Computer scientist Sasha Luccioni is a pioneering voice in AI, especially when it comes to its environmental impact. We speak to her as she is announced on the BBC 100 Women list. We also meet one of the only AI startups in Bhutan, and the two friends who met online and have finally met in real life – after 13 years of knowing each other.
Presenter: Zoe Kleinman Producer: Imran Rahman-Jones Editor: Monica Soriano
(Image: A black and white portrait photo of Sasha Luccioni smiling at the camera. In the background are orange computer-generated geometric shapes. Credit: Steve Gerrard.)
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0:00.0 | On Radio 4, the more you listen, the more you see. |
0:04.7 | Hello, I'm Brian Cox. |
0:05.6 | And I'm Robin Ince, and this is The Infinite Monkey Cage. |
0:08.3 | In this series, we're going to have a planet off. |
0:10.8 | I feel like Jupiter wins. |
0:12.8 | And after all of that, we're just going to chill out a bit. |
0:15.9 | We're talking about your bog standard. |
0:17.8 | Ice, not the fancy one. |
0:20.1 | Science with funny bits. |
0:21.9 | The new series of The Infinite Monkey Cage. |
0:24.1 | Listen on Radio 4 and BBC Sounds. |
0:28.0 | Hello and welcome to TechLife on the BBC World Service with me, Zoe Kleinman. |
0:32.8 | Every year the BBC releases its 100 women list, celebrating influential women from around the world. |
0:39.7 | Today, we're hearing from one of the women on the list, the computer scientist Sasha Lucione. |
0:44.6 | As the use of AI has skyrocketed in the past couple of years, |
0:48.2 | Sasha's become increasingly concerned about its environmental impact, |
0:52.3 | and she's worked on a tool to accurately measure its carbon emissions. |
0:56.6 | It's really adding up this incremental usage and switching from kind of good old-fashioned AI to generative AI |
1:03.0 | is causing a sort of a ripple effect on energy grids and on data center usage. |
1:10.2 | Also on the program, the tiny country of Bhutan famously only got television in 1999, |
1:16.0 | but it now has a growing tech scene. |
1:18.7 | We speak to the co-founder of an AI startup based in the Himalayan Mountains |
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