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Worklife with Adam Grant

How novelist Gabrielle Zevin learned to enjoy failure

Worklife with Adam Grant

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Management, Worklife Podcast, Worklife With Adam Grant, Work Life Balance, Ted Talks, Podcast About Work Life, Ted Adam Grant, Adam Grant Podcasts, Ted Podcasts, Adam Grant, Organizational Psychologist, Business

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Gabrielle Zevin wrote the runaway bestseller Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, but she doesn’t expect anyone to know most of her other nine books. The acclaimed novelist joins Adam to discuss how to face failure, find inspiration, make sure success doesn't hinder creativity, and stay motivated when your goals don't align with your skills. Then, they riff on the most important elements of a story and several mic drop moments in her work.

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective.

0:13.9

Every episode I have conversations with designers, writers,

0:17.8

artists, and other luminaries of contemporary thought.

0:21.4

People like Roman Mars, Iway Way, Ethan Hawk, and Ashley Ford. We not only

0:26.9

talk about their crafts, but how they design the arc of their lives, what they've learned,

0:32.2

what obstacles they've overcome, and how they've done it, and

0:35.4

how they see the world.

0:37.1

Join us for an inquiry into the broader world of creative culture.

0:41.8

Find and follow design matters with Debbie Millman wherever you're

0:45.1

listening to this.

0:47.0

I've had books that did really well, I had books that have done less well, and I've gotten really good at failing.

0:57.6

And I'm proud that I'm good at it, you know, I'm proud that I don't experience it as devastating.

1:02.6

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant.

1:07.8

Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science of what makes us tick

1:11.8

with the TED Audio Collective. I'm an

1:14.0

organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of

1:17.1

fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

1:20.8

My guest today is new ways of thinking.

1:24.1

My guest today is Gabrielle Zevin.

1:26.4

She's best known as the author of Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow,

1:29.8

which won the Goodreads Choice Award

1:31.4

for the Best Fiction of 2022.

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