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We the People

How Powerful is the President?

We the People

National Constitution Center

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🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

President Trump’s far-reaching executive actions have given rise to a debate about whether the president is acting within the tradition of presidential power—or whether recent events represent a departure from the constitutional order and precedent. Melody Barnes of the University of Virginia Karsh Institute for Democracy, Charles Cooke of National Review, Joanne Freeman of Yale University, and Yuval Levin of the American Enterprise Institute join Jeffrey Rosen to discuss the American tradition of presidential power and evaluate analogues to our constitutional moment from across U.S. history.  This conversation was originally recorded on February 20, 2025, as part of the NCC’s President’s Council Retreat in Miami, Fla.  Resources Yuval Levin, “A Rule of Thumb for the Executive Power Debates,” National Review Online (February 5, 2025)  Melody Barnes et al., Karsh Institute of Democracy Statement of Principles  Melody Barnes, Corey D. B. Walker and Thad M. Williamson, “Introduction: Can We Make American Democracy Work?,” in Community Wealth Building and the Reconstruction of American Democracy (2020)  Charles Cooke, The Conservatarian Manifesto: Libertarians, Conservatives, and the Fight for the Right’s Future (2015)  Charles Cooke, “The American System Works, and It Will Work If Trump Wins Again,” National Review (Dec. 15, 2023) Stay Connected and Learn More Questions or comments about the show? Email us at [email protected] Continue the conversation by following us on social media @ConstitutionCtr. Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate. Subscribe, rate, and review wherever you listen. Join us for an upcoming live program or watch recordings on YouTube. Support our important work. Donate

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0:00.0

President Trump's far-reaching executive orders have given rise to a debate.

0:04.7

Is the president acting within the American constitutional tradition,

0:08.8

or have recent events involving the consolidation of executive power

0:13.3

represented a departure from our history and tradition

0:16.6

in a way that would make the president a king?

0:22.9

Hello, friends.

0:24.1

I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center,

0:27.9

and welcome to We the People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

0:31.8

The National Constitution Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit,

0:35.1

chartered by Congress, to increase awareness and understanding of the Constitution

0:39.0

among the American people. This week, a group of historians and commentators join me in Miami

0:44.9

at the National Constitution Center's annual President's Council retreat to discuss this and more.

0:51.5

Melody Barnes of the UVA Karsh Institute for Democracy, Charles Cook of the National

0:57.6

Review, Joanne Freeman of Yale University, and Yuval Levin of the American Enterprise Institute

1:04.8

discuss the American tradition of presidential power and evaluate analogies to our current

1:10.7

moment from across American history.

1:15.8

It is wonderful to welcome you to the National Constitution Center's President's Council retreat.

1:22.8

Doug DeVos put it so well when he said that our goal this weekend, as always at the NCC, is to spark

1:30.8

curiosity and engage in lifelong learning together about this great document, the Constitution

1:37.6

which holds us together. It is the shining ideal that unites us in polarized times.

1:47.0

And what's so meaningful about this weekend is we're going to have conversations not about politics,

1:54.0

but about the Constitution.

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