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Doing It Right with Pandora Sykes

How tech flattened personal taste, with Kyle Chayka

Doing It Right with Pandora Sykes

Pandora Sykes

Society & Culture

4.6835 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

The homogenisation of popular culture is something I’ve been thinking about for a long time. In my 2020 book, How Do We Know We’re Doing It Right? (which spawned this very podcast), I wrote an essay called Get The Look - inspired by a wildly successful Zara polkadot dress - about how internet culture is encouraging young women to dress as facsimiles of one other.   So I was really excited to talk to Kyle Chayka, a staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of a book Filterworld, about how technology - and more specifically, the algorithm - has come to shape what we watch, listen to, eat, dress and even how we travel.   In this episode, we discuss the paradox of choice, decision fatigue, surveillance capitalism, dumb phones and how to break free of ‘the algo’ in order to re-learn what you actually like.   Filterworld: How Algorithms Flattened Culture by Kyle Chayka Read Kyle’s writing on tech and social media for The New Yorker here.   Get in touch at [email protected] Presented by Pandora Sykes Sound by Kelsey Bennett Co-production by Pandora Sykes and Kelsey Bennett

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Doing It Right with me, Pandora Sykes, a podcast where I talk to experts about the myths, anxieties and trends of modern life.

0:16.0

In this series, series four, I'll be exploring topics including postpartum psychosis, sociopathy,

0:23.6

and how technology has flattened personal taste. This is a podcast that asks, what can we do

0:30.1

to understand life better? Not just for ourselves, but for everyone. For the first time ever,

0:36.9

I'm dropping the whole series in one as a capsule box set,

0:40.2

so tuck in.

0:41.4

And don't forget to let me know your thoughts at doing it rightpod at gmail.com.

0:50.2

Kyle Chaker is a staff writer at the New Yorker,

0:53.8

where he writes about tech and social media culture.

0:57.0

He's also the author of a book, Filter World, How Algorithms Flattened Culture, about how technology has come to shape and oversee what we think of as personal taste.

1:09.6

What we watch, what we listen to, how we shop, even how we travel.

1:14.4

The homogenisation or memeification of taste is something I've been thinking about for a long time.

1:20.6

In my 2020 essay collection, How Do We Know We're Doing It Right, which spawned this very podcast,

1:26.3

I wrote an essay called Get the Look

1:28.3

about how internet culture encouraged young women to dress as facsimiles of each other.

1:34.1

It was inspired by that Zara poker dot dress. If you don't know which dress I mean, Google

1:40.1

it. Kyle has zoomed out to look at how the Algo has flattened all aspects of popular culture.

1:47.0

Music, TV, movies, coffee shops.

1:51.0

We discuss the homogenisation of taste, the paradox of choice, decision fatigue, surveillance capitalism,

1:58.0

and whether or not an algorithm could, in fact, make a fairer recommendation than a

2:03.4

human tastemaker, all of whom come with their own biases. I had such fun talking to Kyle and I hope

2:10.5

you enjoy the episode. Let's start with the basics for any Luddites listening.

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