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How The US can Immediately Eliminate the IRS and get rid of personal income taxes

The James Altucher Show

James Altucher

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4.6 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Notes from James: What if I told you that we could eliminate the IRS, get rid of personal income taxes completely, and still keep the government funded? Sounds impossible, right? Well, not only is it possible, but historical precedent shows it has been done before. I know what you’re thinking—this sounds insane. But bear with me. The IRS collects $2.5 trillion in personal income taxes each year. But what if we could replace that with a national sales tax that adjusts based on what you buy? Under my plan: Necessities (food, rent, utilities) 5% tax Standard goods (clothes, furniture, tech) 15% tax Luxury goods (yachts, private jets, Rolls Royces) 50% tax And boom—we don’t need personal income taxes anymore! You keep 100% of what you make, the economy booms, and the government still gets funded. This episode is a deep dive into how this could work, why it’s better than a flat tax, and why no one in government will actually do this (but should). Let me know what you think—and if you agree, share this with a friend (or send it to Trump). Episode Description: What if you never had to pay personal income taxes again? In this mind-bending episode of The James Altucher Show, James tackles a radical idea buzzing from Trump, Elon Musk, and Howard Lutnick: eliminating the IRS. With $2.5 trillion in personal income taxes on the line, is it even possible? James says yes—and he’s got a plan. Digging into history, economics, and a little-known concept called “money velocity,” James breaks down how the U.S. thrived in the 1800s without income taxes, relying on tariffs and “vice taxes” on liquor and tobacco. Fast forward to today: the government rakes in $4.9 trillion annually, but spends $6.7 trillion, leaving a gaping deficit. So how do you ditch the IRS without sinking the ship? James unveils his bold solution: a progressive national sales tax—5% on necessities like food, 15% on everyday goods like clothes, and a hefty 50% on luxury items like yachts and Rolls Royces. Seniors and those on Social Security? They’d pay nothing. The result? The government still nets $2.5 trillion, the economy grows by $3.7 trillion thanks to unleashed consumer spending, and you keep more of your hard-earned cash. No audits, no accountants, just taxes at the cash register. From debunking inflation fears to explaining why this could shrink the $36 trillion national debt, James makes a compelling case for a tax revolution. He even teases future episodes on tariffs and why a little debt might not be the enemy. Whether you’re a skeptic or ready to tweet this to Trump, this episode will change how you see taxes—and the economy—forever. What You’ll Learn: The history of taxes in America—and how the country thrived without an income tax in the 1800s Why the IRS exists and how it raises $2.5 trillion in personal income taxes every year How eliminating income taxes would boost the economy by $3.75 trillion annually My radical solution: a progressive national sales tax—and how it works Why this plan would actually put more money in your pocket Would prices skyrocket? No. Here’s why. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction: Trump's Plan to Eliminate the IRS 00:22 Podcast Introduction: The James Altucher Show 00:47 The Feasibility of Eliminating the IRS 01:27 Historical Context: How the US Raised Money in the 1800s 03:41 The Birth of Federal Income Tax 07:39 The Concept of Money Velocity 15:44 Proposing a Progressive Sales Tax 22:16 Conclusion: Benefits of Eliminating the IRS 26:47 Final Thoughts and Call to Action Resources & Links: Want to see my full breakdown on X? Check out my thread: https://x.com /jaltucher/status/1894419440504025102 Follow me on X: @JAltucher

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0:00.0

Last week, Howard Lutnik, the Secretary of Commerce under Trump, said that Trump's goal is to eliminate the IRS.

0:09.9

And by the way, Trump's also said this.

0:12.1

Elon Musk has said this and tweeted this, that the IRS is going to be eliminated.

0:16.5

But how can you do that?

0:22.1

This isn't your average business podcast, and he's not your average host.

0:27.5

This is the James Altager show.

0:35.5

The IRS raises $4.9 trillion a year. Personal income taxes raises $2.5 trillion per year.

0:47.1

Is it possible to actually eliminate the IRS? Would we need to raise that money elsewhere? How would we raise that money?

0:56.5

Is government spending going to be cut so much that we could eliminate the IRS? So I am going to

1:02.2

answer these questions, plus I have a solution on how one could eliminate the IRS. And whether

1:09.3

or not they use my solution, which I don't expect them to,

1:12.4

I talk about other possible solutions and ways to eliminate the IRS. And in general, you're going to

1:17.8

understand a lot more about the U.S. economy and you're going to understand a lot more about taxes

1:22.0

by the time you finish this podcast within the next 30 minutes. So here we go. First off, I do think the IRS

1:29.3

can be eliminated. You look at the example from the 1800s. And throughout the entire 1800s,

1:36.5

the U.S. economy went from a tiny little net on the world economy to being a fairly large

1:42.5

economy. It wasn't yet the largest in the world, but it was getting

1:45.3

up there. And we had no taxes during this time. Actually, during the Civil War, there was a small

1:50.5

tax, but other than that, before we talk about the current IRS, how did the U.S. government

1:55.0

raise money during the 1800s? Well, primarily two mechanisms. One was tariffs, particularly on textiles and steel, and the other was on what's called excise

2:07.3

taxes, meaning liquor, tobacco, kind of like a vice tax.

2:12.0

Basically, the simplest way to run any government is to incentivize behaviors you like and put in, I guess,

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