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Huberman Lab

How to Achieve Inner Peace & Healing | Dr. Richard Schwartz

Huberman Lab

Scicomm Media

Science, Health & Fitness, Life Sciences

4.826.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2025

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

My guest is Dr. Richard Schwartz, Ph.D., therapist, author, and founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy. We discuss how IFS views the mind as a collection of parts, each shaped by different life experiences—both good and bad, including trauma. To demonstrate how IFS works, Dr. Schwartz guides Dr. Huberman and you, the listener, through an example IFS session. We also explore how IFS and body awareness can help break harmful thought and behavior patterns, promote emotional healing, and build healthier relationships. Read the full episode show notes at hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman David Protein: https://davidprotein.com/huberman Wealthfront**: https://wealthfront.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman This experience may not be representative of the experience of other clients of Wealthfront, and there is no guarantee that all clients will have similar experiences. Cash Account is offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC, Member FINRA/SIPC. The Annual Percentage Yield (“APY”) on cash deposits as of December 27,‬ 2024, is representative, subject to change, and requires no minimum. Funds in the Cash Account are swept to partner banks where they earn the variable‭ APY. Promo terms and FDIC coverage conditions apply. Same-day withdrawal or instant payment transfers may be limited by destination institutions, daily transaction caps, and by participating entities such as Wells Fargo, the RTP® Network, and FedNow® Service. New Cash Account deposits are subject to a 2-4 day holding period before becoming available for transfer. Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Richard Schwartz 00:02:11 Internal Family Systems (IFS), Self & Parts 00:07:23 Sponsors: BetterHelp & David Protein 00:09:44 Trauma & Parts: Exiles, Roles, Critic, Managers, Firefighters 00:15:32 Frustration & Anger, Surrender & Perspective 00:19:35 Feelings, Curiosity & Self-Exploration, Protecting Other Parts 00:29:35 Exploration of Inner Frustration, Judgement, Firefighters, Protectors 00:40:04 Titanium Teddy Bear, The Self & Curiosity, Tool: The 8 C’s & Self 00:46:41 Sponsors: AG1 & Wealthfront 00:49:24 IFS Therapy, Self-Exploration 00:53:47 Role Confusion, Conflict, Self & Clarity; Legacy Burdens 01:00:26 Cognitive vs Somatic Feelings; Tools: Localize Body Feeling, Curiosity 01:04:11 IFS & Psychedelics, Ketamine, Big Self, Journal Retractions 01:11:18 Early Morning, Breathwork, Exiles & Healing 01:13:53 Sponsor: Function 01:15:41 Shame, Racism, Protectors & Carrying Burden, Compassion 01:21:29 Unhealthy Romantic Relationships, Child-Parent Relationship 01:27:06 Therapist, Self-Exploration, Protectors & Introduction to Self 01:31:08 Tool: Questions for a Self-Exploration of Internal Protectors 01:39:30 Writing, Forming New Relationships with Parts, Leading with Self 01:42:51 Protectors, Managers, Firefighters, Suicidal & Addiction Behaviors 01:48:37 Overworking, Fear, Mortality 01:54:35 Technology & Distraction, Exiles, Worthlessness 01:58:58 Psychiatry, Medicine, New Ideas 02:02:58 Culture & Expanding Problems, Activism & Self 02:10:39 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life.

0:08.8

I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine.

0:15.4

My guest today is Dr. Richard Schwartz. Dr. Richard Schwartz is the founder of internal family systems therapy,

0:21.8

which is a unique form of therapy that's less centered on your relationship to other people,

0:26.5

but instead focuses mainly on identifying the parts of yourself and your personality that tend to

0:31.5

emerge in different situations and that tend to create anxiety, resent, or depression.

0:36.5

Another key feature of internal family systems therapy

0:39.5

is that it's not just focused on fixing challenges within us.

0:42.6

It also teaches you how to grow your confidence,

0:45.0

openness, and compassion.

0:46.6

Now today's episode is different than any other episode

0:49.1

of the podcast that we've done before.

0:51.1

And that's for two reasons.

0:52.6

First, Dr. Schwartz takes me through a brief session

0:55.1

of IFS therapy so you can see exactly what it looks like in practice.

0:59.1

And then he takes you, the listener, through it as well.

1:02.3

So as you'll soon observe end experience,

1:04.6

internal family systems therapy allows you to work

1:07.0

through challenging sticking points,

1:08.8

basically the parts or feelings within you

1:10.5

that you don't like to have,

1:11.9

and then it shows you how to convert those feelings

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