Grammar Girl here. I'm Minion Fogarty, and today I am here with Dan Gerstein, founder of Gotham Ghost Riders,

which is an agency that matches ghost writers with projects, people who need ghost writers.

Dan has been a high-level, high-level speech writer and a writing and communications professional

for more than 30 years. He has a degree from Harvard and has taught courses in the NYU

master's program in PR and corporate communications. Dan, welcome to the Grammar Girl podcast.

Thank you for having me, Minion. I'm a big fan of yours. Oh, thanks. Yeah, well, you know, when I heard about your work, I was so excited because it seems like a type of job that writers could get that they maybe haven't thought of.

So, you know, can you first explain sort of what kind of projects are available for gross writers?

Sure. You know, just to provide some context, you know,

when we think of ghost writer, right, we think of someone who is anonymous who writes for someone

else, and it's really become an umbrella term for all kinds of a collaborative writing, right? So

there's a traditional book ghost writer, but speech writers kind of fall under that umbrella of a ghost writer because they're working with the principle to help them

refine their story and express it in a way that's really compelling. With the rise of brand publishing

and LinkedIn thought leadership, there's so many people who are now putting content out in the

world that either don't have the time or the talent to do it themselves. And they are hiring experienced writers to help them do this.

So the field is really exploding and the demand is exploding.

And it's coinciding with the decline in many ways, the disintegration of traditional media and journalism.

And so you have all of this talent that's

kind of migrating from traditional journalism roles in freelance journalism now to where they're

doing writing for higher work. And we've had a front row seat on this transformation over the last

10, 15 years. And I think it's overall a really great thing for writers because there's

so much more work available for you. There's the diversity of demand. And it pays very, very well.

You know, we'll talk about this a little bit later, but we just released the results of the first

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