The following podcast is a dear media production. Lori, it's so nice to talk to you. You too, I'm excited to chat. I want to go I want to just I want to hear your whole story like I want to go from the

beginning like my husband barely finished high school and you always talk about how you didn't

finish high school and school was always

really hard for me but you have done a little bit of absolutely everything

which is what I did and it's something I always like to scream from the rooftops is like such an important path.

Okay, so let's take it all the way back to Lori in high school.

Oh man, okay, we're gonna go way back. So I am from a really small town

and Upper Michigan and I was also raised in a more restrictive religion so that took a small town and it made it even

smaller yeah and so I was only allowed to hang out with the people who were in my

congregation so we couldn't associate with people outside of that. So it took like a very small town

and there were 114 people in my congregation.

And so, you know, it's like what you can't see,

you can't be.

So for me, it was like, I was just like this is my life this is what I'm going to do I'm

going to get married I'm going to go there it was to say were your goals at that point

just to like spread gospel get married have children yes yeah it was going to be to go

door to door and get married and that's what that's what I saw and you survive like that was

kind of the narrative like life is hard it's hard to to make money, money is hard to come by,

rich people are evil, just like survive.

So money's bad, like store up your treasures in heaven, like all of those. Oh my God, totally.

So this is, that was like just always playing in my brain.

So as a teenager, it's funny, I would always, you know, I was kind of that kid who could go and do things and just be alone and like go on four-hour bike rides and like I would just disappear for the day and I remember on these like long walks or bike rides like I would just like be so,

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