You're listening to How to Be a Better Human. I'm your host Chris Duffy.

Today's guest, Krista Tippett, is someone whose work I have admired for years.

She's able to talk about big, often unanswerable questions in a way that combines rigor, deep intelligence,

and a respect for the unknown.

And at this particular moment in time, a moment when I, and maybe you too, often struggle to find optimism and hope for the world,

Krista is a big believer in the fundamental goodness of human beings.

She's an incredibly special person and I am so glad that we got a chance to talk.

Krista is always looking for ways to acknowledge and to spend time with the issues that we're all dealing with

but can struggle to put into words.

One huge example is that instead of moving on minimizing or dismissing it, Krista is grappling with what the legacy of the pandemic and the lockdowns mean for each of us personally.

Here's a clip from her TED Talk.

Here is one way to begin to talk about what the pandemic, the post-2020 world began to set in motion.

All together for a time we felt for the ground beneath our feet.

We remembered that the ground beneath our feet is never as solid as we believe it to be.

We remembered that civilization revolves around something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies.

We softened, chasms became un-unseeable between the ways we've been living and our

deepest longings for all of our children and the highest potentials for human flourishing.

So how to step into what we have been given to see, how we have been given to learn and to grow.

We're going to be right back with more Krista, more learning, and more growth in just a moment.

But first, a quick ad break.

Today we're talking with Krista Tippett about finding meaning and hope in a challenging time.

Hi, I'm Krista Tippett of On Being.

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