Rise and shine fever dreamers I'm Sammy Sage and this is American Fever Dream presented by Betches News where we explore the absurdities and oddies of our uniquely American experience.

Today we are so lucky to be joined by Noah Tishby and Emmanuel Acho,

authors of the new book, Uncomfortable Conversations with the Jew.

A follow-up to Emmanuel's 2020 book, Uncomfortable Conversations with a follow-up to Emmanuel's 2020 book Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black man.

V is out today and I know she is very sad to miss this interview but I'm happy to have you all here.

Welcome Noah and Emmanuel.

Thank you, thank you.

Thank you so much for being here.

I have been reading your book and also just,

even as we're getting ready to go on this show,

observing the dynamic and the friendship

between the two of you. And it has been such a bright spot to see like a

really constructive, friendly, giving each other the benefit of the doubt, conversation and dynamic, even, well

obviously throughout the book as I know you come from different places, you know, in your

perspectives in a lot of ways, and in a lot of ways you don't.

One thing I want to say is thank you for creating that bright spot and right now I think things are

looking pretty bleak it seems like no one can get along.

So I would love to hear from you

about your experiences and how you've been able to help people of differing

perspectives reconcile them and I guess kind of like what you've witnessed as you've brought this book into the world

with the goal of creating more understanding.

Oh my God, I love this question by the way you've used the word.

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