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🗓️ 10 February 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Our (return!) guest this week is Karen Walrond, Karen is a writer, photographer, lawyer, leadership coach and a longtime activist. She’s also the author of the several books, including 2021's "The Lightmaker's Manifesto: How to Work for Change Without Losing Your Joy." We're talking all about defining activism for ourselves with integrity, empathy, kindness, intention, self-compassion, curiosity and, yes, even joy through the current political horrors.
You can find Karen at: https://www.chookooloonks.com/
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0:00.0 | Hi, and welcome to Everything is Fine, a podcast for Women Over 40. |
0:08.4 | We are your hosts. I'm Kim France. |
0:10.6 | And I'm Jen Romalini, just sipping on some bone broth in my bone broth cup that they sent me. |
0:16.9 | It's like, you're such a sucker that you got a bone broth subscription. |
0:20.7 | We'll give you a fucking mug. |
0:22.8 | Wow. I'm kind of jealous of the mug, though. It's cute. It's a perfect size mug for bone broth. |
0:29.0 | Hi, so you're actually on vacation this week. This is a cheat of the system. It's a cheat of the system. |
0:34.6 | I'm popping in and then popping back out. Popping in and popping back out. |
0:38.3 | I will be, we don't even know yet what the interview is going to be like, but we are going to have our friend of the podcast, Karen Walrond, on to talk about how we can stay joyful while also being resistant in these difficult times. |
0:57.6 | Because she literally wrote the book on that. |
0:59.7 | And also she's weirdly the most positive person I've ever met without being having like toxic positivity. |
1:07.3 | No, it's not because she has a little, I wouldn't say edge, but sort of. |
1:12.2 | You know, it's like she kind of has the edge that is not present in people who are very |
1:17.5 | toxicly positive. |
1:19.8 | Exactly, exactly. |
1:21.4 | But the thing while I have you here that I want to talk to you about that is not |
1:24.6 | fucking positive in any way is I have seen some photographs |
1:32.3 | of myself. Like, let me just preface this by saying, I have pretty good self-esteem. I'm like, |
1:37.1 | I think I look great for 51. I'm like, you know, my face looks good. My skin looks good. I feel good. |
1:42.8 | I gained a bunch of weight. I have a big |
1:45.8 | ass right now, but I've still been feeling mostly good, okay? I saw some candid photographs of myself. |
1:55.5 | We have these friends. They have Thanksgiving dinner every year. And then after the, it's like a |
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