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🗓️ 9 April 2025
⏱️ 82 minutes
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We’re back BA Fam with a whole lot to celebrate! Joining us are two of our faves in the finance space: Chris Browning of “Popcorn Finance” and Berna Anat, author of the amazing book “Money Out Loud”. If you’re looking to level up your money game and feel good doing it, this episode’s for you.
We get into:
- The highs and lows of aggressively saving money
- Gen Z’s "we’re gonna have fun & save money" energy
-Your financial strategy in the age of Tr*mp Tariffs
-Lizzo’s redemption tour
-Are solopreneurs heading back to Corporate America?
We also chat about what’s going on in the world—from economic uncertainty and tariffs to the importance of staying informed without losing your peace. And when it comes to career shifts, Berna talks about her transition from full-time solopreneurship back to the 9-5 life…and how she’s doing it on her own terms.
Make sure you stick around till the end when we share our Brown Boosts and Breaks for the week! Special mentions for Oakland, Moesha and Lizzo’s redemption tour.
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(0:00:06) - Brown Ambition With Mandy Woodruff-Santos
(0:04:49) - Financial Reflections and Regrets
(0:18:29) - Realigning Values and Money Habits
(0:26:21) - Navigating Economic Uncertainty and Tariffs
(0:34:07) - Community Building Through Thrift and Bartering
(0:45:56) - Investing Strategies and Debt Management
(0:48:58) - Transitioning to Stable Employment
(0:56:04) - Exploring Oakland's Black and Brown Community
(1:04:37) - Lizzo's Journey to Self-Love
(1:10:05) - Navigating Cancel Culture and Redemption
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This episode is all about giving yourself grace, finding balance, and building the life you want—with your finances in check and your spirit intact.
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0:00.0 | Hey, hey, BA fam, is your girl Mandy, Monty. I could not be more excited to have you here. |
0:06.7 | Thank you for showing up. Thank you for tuning in. I don't take it for granted that the thousands of y'all who decide to listen to Brown Ambition on Wednesday and Friday each week, I just can't thank you enough. You're the reason why I do this show. |
0:21.9 | Now, I want to take a moment because we have a bit of news at BA. I'm now a part. Well, we, we are now |
0:29.4 | a part of the I-Heart Media Network. Now, don't worry because this doesn't really mean anything |
0:35.4 | for you. In fact, you really shouldn't experience |
0:38.2 | any change. It is a huge milestone, especially for those who don't know, Brown Ambition has been |
0:43.9 | around since 2015. I'm like a geriatric podcaster. I have been doing this podcast since I was 26 |
0:50.2 | years old. I was just a reporter at Yahoo Finance who wanted to do a podcast for black girls like me |
0:56.5 | and make talking about finances and career ambition and negotiating and credit scores. And am I about |
1:03.6 | to marry this man if he doesn't have an 800 FICO? I wanted to have a safe space where we can |
1:09.7 | have those types of conversations. And I was just really |
1:12.1 | bored of the bro culture that I was encountering in the business journalism channels where I was |
1:19.6 | working from Business Insider to Yahoo Finance. And yeah, I was fed up and I just wanted a space |
1:25.6 | just for us. Okay. So I got my girl, Tiffany, the budgetnista. |
1:29.8 | She said yes to me and my random idea for this podcast. But you know who said no? My bosses. |
1:36.8 | I took the podcast to Yahoo Finance and I said, I had this idea. I want to do this show targeting |
1:42.1 | millennial women of color and I want it to be really fun. I'm going to do all the work. You know, can I have the studio space? They already literally had the studio spaces set up, okay? It was not any investment in terms of equipment, but still they said no. And at the time, I was pretty, I don't know, devastated was the word, |
2:02.4 | but I definitely felt challenged. And I felt like I'm going to prove them wrong. And honestly, |
2:09.3 | the people in our lives who tell us no, they serve such an amazing purpose because how many |
2:14.3 | incredible stories of success start with, told me no and then dot dot dot |
2:19.7 | dot people have to tell you no at a certain point it serves a purpose and i'm just really grateful |
2:25.3 | not only did that no not stop me it actually pushed me to create a podcast that i own |
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