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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

How to Stay Hopeful (Live from SXSW with Michelle Obama)

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

"What can we do to find hope when times are tough?" That was the question posed to Dr Laurie for a live recording of IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson at the 2025 SXSW festival. 

Dr Laurie explained what science says about retaining hope and how we can act in ways that make us feel better even in bleak times - and the former First Lady shared her tips for staying hopeful. 

IMO is a new show hosted by Michelle and her brother Craig - with guests ranging from Jay Shetty to Seth Rogen.  

Listen to IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson wherever you get your podcasts. 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.8

Hey, Happiness Lab listeners. You know that I often like to share the conversations I have with interesting folks on other podcasts.

0:21.4

And today, I've got one that I think you'll really enjoy. Because I had the pleasure of taking

0:25.9

part in a live recording of a new podcast called IMO, hosted by former First Lady of the United

0:31.7

States, Michelle Obama and her brother, Craig Robinson. And for their first live show ever at

0:37.1

South by Southwest,

0:38.4

the siblings had yours truly on as a guest.

0:41.0

To discuss a very tough happiness question,

0:43.8

how can we fight hopelessness in scary times?

0:46.8

I hope you enjoy our conversation

0:48.2

and be sure to check out IMO wherever you get your podcasts.

0:53.5

Music wherever you get your podcasts.

1:01.8

Well, hey, South by Southwest.

1:03.4

Wow.

1:05.2

Austin.

1:08.0

Hi, Craig Robinson.

1:09.6

My big brother.

1:10.5

Yay. He's so nice. You My big brother. Yay.

1:13.2

He's so nice.

1:14.3

You all are nice.

1:17.2

But how about my sister, Michelle Obama?

1:18.1

Yeah.

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