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My name is Paul Adamson and I'm in conversation with Nick Clegg.

Nick Clegg is the former Deputy prime minister of the UK and former

leader of the Liberal Democrats. Nick, it's Thursday the 12th of October and this is the

morning where your new book is published, How to Stop Brexit, Brackets and Make Britain Great

Again brackets. In a nutshell, how can we stop Brexit if we want to stop Brexit?

So I don't think there is any way out of this cul-de-sac in which we all find ourselves now

in this Brexit cul-de-sac.

And by the way, I say it's a cul-de-sac.

It's a cul-de-sac even for those people who advocated Brexit in the first place, because

it's not remotely turning out how they hoped either.

So I think everybody recognises we're in a mess now. And I don't think there's any way that you can back out of that cul-de-sac

and sort of pause for breath and think again about how we should proceed,

which does not start with MPs in Parliament in almost exactly a year's time

when they've been promised a vote on whatever deal Theresa May and David Davis cobbled together, Michel Barnier,

it's indispensable that MPs at that point say to the government, no, I'm sorry, we're not going to endorse this,

because it doesn't in any way measure up to the promises that you made to our constituents.

And that will, of course, then, provoke turbulence, and rupture and drama and so on.

But I think that is the indispensable first step in trying to...

We sort of put Humpty Dumpty back together again to start trying to think more rationally about the relationship between the United Kingdom and the EU.

So a lot of the book is written about how ordinary folk can try and influence their MPs, particularly their Conservative and Labour MPs,

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