Oh my gosh what a podcast was Naveen Jane. I originally had Naveen Jane on the podcast back in I think it was

either 2014 or 2015. So almost 10 years ago and he remembered it perfectly.

It was such a fun conversation.

I've written about the conversation.

He originally started InfoSpace, which is one of the original

dot com companies. He was like worth over a billion dollars from that.

You know, then more recently he has started a company called Viom, which we spoke about, but most of all, we spoke about his new book,

The Youth Formula.

Outsmart your genes

and unlock the secret to longevity.

Now, just let it be known,

and I told him this I've had so many people talk about

longevity and how we're gonna live forever and health you, I'm almost tired of it.

But he has a very unique take.

We spoke about how about 99.999% of your body

is made up of over 100 million microbes or bacteria or whatever you want to call it.

And so his whole point is that we all think our DNA is so important to our health and that's been kind of a

non-stop message from a lot of people and companies and experts and so on that

DNA is destiny that if your ancestors or parents or grandparents had, you know, heart disease or

Alzheimer's or diabetes or whatever, then there's a good chance you could have it.

And he made the point that, well, if 99.9% of our body is made up of all these bacterias and microbes,

then what about all the DNA of all that bacteria and all those microbes.

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