And as I opened the garage, I watched them pull the trigger and shoot my dog and

so I like got out of the car and like felt my knees and I'm nine months pregnant

and he, you know, yelled at me that I need to get up. I was making a scene.

Somebody's going to call the cops.

Welcome back to other people's lives. I'm Joe Sanagato. I'm Greg Dybeck. For anyone

out there that would like to be a guest on our show, don't hesitate to reach out.

Our email is OPL podcast. I'm sorry. I was going to spell it out. OPL podcast at gmail.com.

Just send us an email and we'll get back to you. Today, we're speaking to a woman who is a survivor

of extreme domestic abuse at the hands of her own fiance. She's going to discuss how she was

kidnapped, held hostage at gunpoint and how she fought to escape and also why the justice system may

never let her truly be free from her abuser. But we've got the guests on the line and first of all,

just thank you so much for reaching out to us and coming on the show today.

I really appreciate you helping me share my story.

Yeah, absolutely. When we talk to survivors of abuse on this show, I think the most important

insight that we get is how to identify early red flags. Can you just walk us through who was

your fiance when you first met him? What type of person was he? In hindsight, what were some of

the initial red flags that you noticed? I met what would be my future fiance at a friends birthday

party. I just got married at a very long-term relationship with a guy that I felt was a little bit

immature. When I met him, he had a really great job and had his own place. He had a motorcycle,

which I thought was very cool. I just thought he was seven years older than me. I thought maybe

being in a relationship with someone older might be better and more mature.

Okay. When you started dating him, what was the first red flag that you noticed and how far

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