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The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

IBCC Episode 42 Fluid Selection & pH Guided Resuscitation

The Internet Book of Critical Care Podcast

Adam Thomas

Foam, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Science, Criticalcare, Medicaleducation

5714 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2019

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we cover the always vexing crystalloid vs colloid debate. Farkas also brings it to the next level with a new paradigm for using large volume resuscitations to treat your patient's acid-base disturbances. Come take a listen for all things alkalinizing, acidifying and maintaining.

Transcript

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0:00.0

So welcome back to the Internet Book of Critical Care podcast.

0:07.0

I'm here with Adam Thomas and we're going to talk about resuscitated fluid selection.

0:12.0

All right, peeps, this is going to be one of my favorite podcasts we've had.

0:15.0

It took us 42 to get here, but this is fluid selection and pH-guided resuscitation. Today we'll talk about

0:22.7

step one, choosing your fluids. Step two, pH-guided fluid resuscitation, and then a hodgepodge

0:29.1

of juicy, juicy clinical pearls to get you through your days as reanimators. So Josh, start us off.

0:37.2

Why is it important what fluid we choose? And why do people

0:40.8

argue that maybe one or two liters is not a big problem? So if you think about what drives

0:45.8

change in medicine, I think it's horrific things that happen with a reasonable frequency. So if

0:51.3

things aren't like really awful, then if they fall underneath like a certain

0:54.5

frequency, nobody cares about them. And I think that's the problem with fluids, which is that

0:57.6

they sometimes cause problems, but usually they're not obvious problems and the obvious problems

1:02.2

occur relatively and frequently. So there's not a big driver to change. And we'll talk about the

1:06.4

salty D trial, but Josh, I think what you're getting at here is the compounding effect that if the

1:11.5

number needed to treat is 30 or 50, we can find easily 30 or 50 patients around us that are getting

1:17.6

volume every day. So in a hospital-based system with 700 patients, that is a huge effect for the

1:23.7

entire population. Exactly. And the difference between all these fluids is really

1:28.8

minimal as far as cost or logistics. So I think it makes sense to choose the best one. Now let's move on

1:33.2

to crystalloids versus colloids. Just like the other quintessential critical care debates of steroids,

1:41.1

of modes of ventilation. Let's get down to when do we pick a crystalloid, when

1:46.0

to be pick a colloid, when do we sneak that albumin in there? I think long story, super

1:50.7

short. There's evidence to support the use of albumin in spontaneous spectral pertinitis,

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