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It's the 10% Happier podcast.

I'm always struck by how often people tend to look for happiness in the wrong places.

I get it.

I've done this a million times.

Still do it occasionally.

And yet, I remain agog at the fact that so many of us operate under the misapprehension,

conscious or subconscious, that the next slice of pizza, the next promotion, the next purchase

is going to

finally do it for us in some abiding way. And yet, of course, the hole is never filled.

Today we're going to talk about what may be, for some of you, a deeply counterintuitive way

to address stress, anxiety, and despair about the state of the world. It centers, this

conversation does. It centers, this conversation does.

It centers around the word amen.

But I want to be clear, not in a religious way.

I will let my guest explain this fully.

But the punchline is one we return to often on the show, human interaction.

As you've heard me say before, so much of modern life militates against social interaction.

And the good news, as I never get tired of reminding you, is that interacting with other people is a learnable skill, albeit one that very few of us are ever actually taught.

My guest today is Rabbi Sharon Brous, and she has some extremely practical and often very challenging tips

for improving what psychologists call your social health. She's the senior and founding rabbi of

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