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From Pushkin Industries, this is deep background, the show where we explore the stories behind

the stories in the news. I'm Noah Feldman. Throughout the long run of this pandemic, we've been running episodes to keep you, our listeners, informed about the latest changes in the emerging science of COVID-19, treatments appropriate to it, and public health responses available for dealing with it.

As the country has gone through a substantial third wave of the virus,

and as hospitals, especially in the southeastern United States,

are coming dangerously close to capacity,

we thought it was the right time to have another conversation about this topic,

and particularly on what looks like it will emerge as the new normal in the

wake of the Delta variant. Here to discuss this with me today is Dr. Susan Phillip. She is the

health officer for the city and county of San Francisco. I wanted to talk with her in particular

because San Francisco's COVID response is in many ways a model for major American cities.

Nearly 80% of the eligible population is fully vaccinated there.

Just last week, San Francisco made news by becoming the first big city in the U.S. to require proof of vaccination to get into restaurants, gyms, recreation centers,

or any event at all with more than a thousand people.

Dr. Philip wields the power to write health orders for the city.

She's been at the front lines of determining the right policy responses to the challenges

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