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This is Five Line Boxing.

So sometimes we have to change the pace of the way we do our pods and this is one of those instances.

Barry McGwigen is one of the most recognizable names, not just in British boxing, but in British sport.

And I sat down with Barry McGreglan for a chat.

An informal chat, now the background to the chat,

is there's a brand new series, four episodes of a show called Stable,

about the whole McGuigan gym in East London. We'll talk about that. We'll talk

about everything. We might even talk about boxing.

I'm Steve Bunz and this is Five Live Boxing.

And Barry McGriggan is with me.

Now Barry, let's, um um before we talk about the stable

before we talk about the show before we talk about how it was filmed

and you're fairly private man and suddenly and I've seen there's like seven or eight members of this team

following you around showing up at the gym getting on planes of you at the

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