In conversation with Sam Altman

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🗓️ 10 May 2024

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) Welcoming Sam Altman to the show!

(2:28) What's next for OpenAI: GPT-5, open-source, reasoning, what an AI-powered iPhone competitor could look like, and more

(21:56) How advanced agents will change the way we interface with apps

(33:01) Fair use, creator rights, why OpenAI has stayed away from the music industry

(42:02) AI regulation, UBI in a post-AI world

(52:23) Sam breaks down how he was fired and re-hired, why he has no equity, dealmaking on behalf of OpenAI, and how he organizes the company

(1:05:33) Post-interview recap

(1:10:38) All-In Summit announcements, college protests

(1:19:06) Signs of innovation dying at Apple: iPad ad, Buffett sells 100M+ shares, what's next?

(1:29:41) Google unveils AlphaFold 3.0

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https://twitter.com/EconomyApp/status/1622029832099082241

https://sacra.com/c/openai

https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1787864325258162239

https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-model-spec

https://twitter.com/SabriSun_Miller/status/1788298123434938738

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1788312545754825091

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/warren-buffett-just-sold-more-than-100-million-shares-of-apple-reason-why-is-eye-opening.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snbTCWL6rxo

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20240506PD216/apple-ev-startup-genai.html

https://www.theonion.com/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades-1819584036

https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-deepmind-isomorphic-alphafold-3-ai-model

Transcript

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0:00.0	I first met our next guest, Sam Waldman, almost 20 years ago when he was working on a local
0:05.2	mobile app called Looped. We were both backed by Sequoia Capital and in fact, who were both in the first class of Sequoia Scouts. He did investment in a little unknown FinTech company called Stripe. I did Uber and in that tiny experiment.
0:19.0	You did Uber. I've never heard that before.
0:21.0	Yeah, I think so. It's possible. You could start and ready. You should write a book, Jacob. Maybe. Rain Man David's Act
0:34.0	I'm going on in
0:36.0	And it said we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it.
0:40.0	Love you guys, Queen of Kinwa. That tiny experimental fund,
0:45.0	experimental fund that Sam and I were part of a
0:47.8	scouts is Sequoia's highest multiple returning fund.
0:51.4	A couple of low digit millions turned into over 200 million, I'm told.
0:54.3	And then he did, yeah, that's what I was talking by Ruloff, yeah.
0:57.7	And he did a stand-out Y-combinator where he was president from 2014 to 2019 and 2016.
1:02.4	He co-founded Open AI with the goal of ensuring
1:05.5	that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. In 2019 he left
1:10.8	YC to join Open AI full-time as CEO.
1:13.5	Things got really interesting on November 30th of 2022.
1:17.4	That's the day Open AI launched ChatGPT.
1:20.9	In January 2023, Microsoft invested 10 billion in November 2023 over a crazy five days span.
1:28.0	Sam was fired from Open AI.
1:30.0	Everybody was going to go work at Microsoft.
1:31.8	A bunch of heart emojies went viral on X slash Twitter,
1:35.2	and people started speculating that the team had reached artificial general intelligence.
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