Independent Agency CEO: 'DOGE has broken into our building.'

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🗓️ 18 March 2025

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The U.S. Institute for Peace announced Monday that despite being independent of the executive branch and controlling its own building and the land it sits on, their objections to members of Elon Musk's DOGE team trespassing in their building were overridden by D.C. police. That came after an earlier confrontation in which DOGE was accompanied by the FBI. Skye Perryman, president of Democracy Forward, who is suing the U.S. Marshals for information on DOGE after a similar raid, joins to discuss the unprecedented nature of DOGE leveraging the threat of armed law enforcement against another part of the government.

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0:00.0	Thanks to at home for joining this. I'm really happy to have you here this Monday night. They said that by nightfall, the turnout was somewhere north of 325,000 people. Look at the size of this. We knew in advance that this is going to be a big demonstration. The government knew it was coming. The government had parked a whole bunch of tractors around their
0:21.6	capital building in anticipation that there were going to be a lot of people there. And they thought
0:25.2	the wall of tractors might put people off, I guess. All through that afternoon, Saturday afternoon,
0:31.5	you could see the crowd starting to build up in the capital city. But when they ended up at
0:36.3	night at something like 320, look at that, 325,000 people in the capital city, but when they ended up at night at something like 300, look at that,
0:39.5	325,000 people in the streets, I think pretty much everybody was surprised. This happened
0:46.5	Saturday in Serbia, in a country that's only got about 6.6 million people. They got a third of a million people to show up at a single
0:56.4	demonstration when they don't even have 7 million people in the entire country for their
1:00.7	population. If you want to compare that to us, if we got a similar proportion of our
1:06.4	country's population to all show up for the same demonstration, that would be a demonstration of
1:11.4	about 17 million people. Yeah. This is just massive. This is Belgrade this weekend. Serbia's
1:20.7	president is pro-Putin and pro-Trump. The people of Serbia are not, and they are mobilizing in almost unbelievable numbers now to try to get rid of their president.
1:34.0	These are the biggest protests that have happened in that country in a generation, absolutely massive.
1:40.4	President Donald Trump's son, Don Jr., the brunette.
1:45.5	He visited Serbia last week and said that he thought the protests there were artificial,
1:51.0	that they weren't real.
1:52.8	The real Serbian people certainly wouldn't be protesting against their leadership.
1:57.6	The Serbian president posted photos of himself with Don Jr.
2:02.4	Like he was greeting ahead of state or something. The Serbian president also ordered police in
2:08.6	that country to raid the offices for the major civil society NGOs in that country.
2:14.3	The police went in without warrants. They went in armed and they just took
2:18.5	everything at those organizations. The justification for them doing that was Donald Trump.
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