This conversation has left me feeling like Morgan Freeman at the end of seven,

where he's like, so-and-so said,

the world is a good place and worth fighting for.

I believe the second part.

Welcome to you wrong about where we are celebrating the holidays by talking with

Taylor Lorenz about the internet, the very thing you might be using to avoid your family right now.

Taylor Lorenz is the author of the new book Extremely Online. She is extremely online.

She swung by to take me on a joy ride through the last 20 years

roughly of internet history and to talk about the world of influencers and how

whether we accept it or not we're all

probably living in it now and what we can do to make it a better place for all of us.

We've been having a really fun, very Christmasy month over here over on Patreon and Apple Plus subscriptions

for our bonus content subscribers.

We have the beginning of my reading of the audiobook of Charles Dickens A Christmas Carol.

I'm doing my best to emulate the great gonzo, and we're going to have the conclusion to the story up in the next couple weeks.

So stay tuned or else you'll have no way of knowing

how that book ends.

I also want to thank so dearly everybody who came,

everybody who tried to come, everybody who was there in spirit at a massive

seance, a holiday spectacular for the living and the dead, the show that you're wrong about did in collaboration with American Hysteria, a great

podcast, and The Little Lies, a great Fleetwood Mac tribute band, and with our friends, Chelsea Weber Smith and Miranda Zickler. We had an amazing time

welcoming some ghosts into the Aladdin Theater and if you didn't get a chance

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