Information Is Not Transformation (Part 2)
Jonathan David & Melissa Helser Podcast
Jonathan Helser
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 10 May 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Jonathan Helser and Jason Vallotton continue their conversation about living as powerful, healthy men. “Where are you?” This was the first question God asked in the Bible to Adam and Eve after they sinned and were hiding. It is so important for us all to grow in understanding our stories so that we can confess to God and others where we actually are and ask for help. This is where discipleship happens.
Jason Vallotton is a pastor and counselor in Redding, CA. He is a longtime friend of Jonathan and Melissa who has made a significant impact on our community and our discipleship schools. (Learn more about Jason’s ministry and the BraveCo podcast here: https://braveco.org)
To listen to the “Dates, Mates and Babies with the Vallottons” Podcast, click here.
Our 18 Inch Journey discipleship school exists to close the gap between what we know about God in our heads and who we believe Him to be in our hearts. Our vision is to see sons and daughters who are yielded to Jesus, tending to their inner life, and thriving in their relationships. If you are interested in learning more about the 18 Inch Journey, head over to http://18inchjourney.com.
We have created resources for discipleship and tools for stewarding your life with the Lord at https://engagingcultivate.com.
You can also watch this podcast on the Cageless Birds YouTube channel.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello friends, this is Jonathan Helser, thank you so much for tuning in to our podcast. |
| 0:07.7 | Today we're going to be jumping in to part two of a conversation I had with my dear friend |
| 0:13.0 | Jason Valtin. |
| 0:15.0 | And as I've been listening back to this conversation, I've been so moved by the questions that |
| 0:20.2 | Jason asked me. |
| 0:21.9 | You know, I really believe that great friends know how to ask great questions because true |
| 0:27.7 | friends really want us to become who were born to be. |
| 0:31.5 | And their questions have a way of us really digging in and discovering what God has put |
| 0:36.3 | in our heart. |
| 0:37.3 | And as Jason was asking me these questions, it was really pulling things out of my heart |
| 0:41.2 | that I had forgotten about or didn't even know where they are. |
| 0:45.0 | And I was so moved by the wisdom that came out of Jason's heart. |
| 0:49.1 | You know, we've built so much of our community and discipleship curriculum around a quote |
| 0:54.4 | that we heard from John Eldridge and John said that discipleship is formed by the questions |
| 1:00.4 | that are asked. |
| 1:01.9 | And I love conversations like this where friends are asking each other questions and it's |
| 1:07.3 | pulling treasures out of each other's heart from what we've learned through life and |
| 1:12.0 | through the battles that we fought. |
| 1:14.6 | And before we jump in, I want to take a moment and just brag about what an incredible man |
| 1:19.2 | that Jason is. |
| 1:20.2 | He's one of the most phenomenal counselors I've ever sat with. |
| 1:24.3 | And he's been such a gift to me and Melissa and to our community. |
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