But at one point toward the end there, I actually was just developing medical issues. I'd wake up blind.

So you were so malnourished that you were developing blindness in the morning?

Welcome back to other people's lives. I'm Joe Sanagato. I'm Greg Dyback. For anyone out there

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OPL podcast at gmail.com. Yes. Today, we're speaking to a woman who reached out to share her

experiences as a child who was sent to what is often referred to as a fat camp.

And we're going to learn all about what happens at these camps that are designed to make

children lose weight and why our guests' experience at the camp was very different than how

it was promoted to her.

So we've got the guests on the line.

And thank you so much for coming on today.

Hi. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. No, definitely. So I know the term that gets thrown around is

fat camp. I think it sounds like a joke to a lot of people, but these are real places. So how do these camps typically refer to themselves?

And can you just give us your definition of what they are? Yeah. So what's funny to me is that usually

when I see someone or hear someone getting upset about the word fat, usually they are not fat.

And typically the fat people find it funny

and we refer to ourselves as fat and we called it back camp we made fun of it kind of made light

of the situation because we knew exactly what was going on but basically the whole purpose is

you go there and it's a lot of exercise and not much

eating and then you leave and you're skinny, but you don't really know how to keep it off after.

And that's kind of the main issue there. So can you kind of describe how it's different than a regular

camp? Because I mean, I've never been to camp before, but I assume it's like, you know, you wake up and then, you know,

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