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Jimmy's Jobs of the Future

Inside Keir Starmer’s Rise | Patrick Maguire & Gabriel Pogrund

Jimmy's Jobs of the Future

Boxlight Creative Studio

Technology, Business, Careers

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Want your own Brand or Business Podcast? Try out our NEW Podcast Calculator: https://www.boxlight.io/ Kickstart your career and find a job that matters at https://www.jobsthatmatter.uk 🔥 Inside Keir Starmer’s Rise: Power, Politics & The Labour Party In this explosive episode of Jimmy’s Jobs of the Future, political insiders Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund take us behind the scenes of Keir Starmer’s rise to power. Based on their new book Get In, they reveal the untold story of how Starmer seized control of the Labour Party, the power players pulling the strings, and the battles shaping the party’s future. From Morgan McSweeney’s shadow influence to Starmer’s real economic vision, this episode uncovers the hidden forces that will decide the future of British politics. If you want to know who really runs Labour, how Starmer won power, and what happens next—this is the episode to watch. 🔹 Timestamps – Click to Jump In 👇 00:00 Intro 01:23 Meet the Authors: Patrick Maguire & Gabriel Pogrund 02:20 The Many Faces of Keir Starmer – What Does He Stand For? 03:30 Starmer’s Ideology – A Pragmatist or a True Believer? 06:33 How Starmer’s Early Career Shaped His Leadership Style 13:24 Morgan McSweeney’s Hidden Influence on Starmer’s Success 17:29 Labour Together & The Business Interests Shaping Policy 30:32 Why Labour Is Desperate to Win Over Big Business 35:27 What Labour Really Thinks About the Economy 42:27 The Business Leaders Secretly Backing Labour 43:47 Is Labour Actually Ready for Government? 46:29 Starmer’s Leadership: Strengths, Weaknesses & Power Moves 50:40 What Really Drives Keir Starmer? 01:01:08 Angela Rayner & The Internal Labour Power Struggles 01:07:14 What’s Next for Labour & Starmer’s 2024 Strategy 01:13:47 How to Break Into Political Journalism 01:18:03 Labour’s Rising Stars – Who to Watch Next ********** Follow us on socials! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jimmysjobs Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jimmysjobsofthefuture Twitter / X: https://www.twitter.com/JimmyM Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-mcloughlin-obe/ Want to come on the show? [email protected] Sponsor the show or Partner with us: [email protected] Credits: Host / Exec Producer: Jimmy McLoughlin OBE Producer: Sunny Winter Editor: Sunny Winter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.1

Welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future. Today I'm joined by Patrick McGuire and Gabriel Pogrund

0:34.9

at the Times. They have just written the book on Kier Starmer and how

0:40.2

he turned the Labour Party from its worst electoral defeat into one of its biggest ever victories last year.

0:48.4

It's a fascinating read, how the party turned itself around, all the different processes that

0:53.6

they went through to do that

0:54.8

and how they use business as a core component of that reaching out to business was seen as one of the

1:01.2

key prioritised to kind of detoxify the labour brand they talk in the book about how ed milliband

1:06.8

was initially moved from the shadow business secretary. And it's a really interesting

1:12.2

read on lots of different levels. And as I was sitting there thinking a lot about how the

1:18.4

Conservative Party probably needs to read the book to understand how to kind of reform itself

1:23.2

in the new era of politics. And we also talk a little bit to Patrick and Gabe about their jobs at the times

1:30.7

and where they see the future of Labour going

1:33.2

and why they've had such a rocky start to their first couple of hundred days in power.

1:41.0

So, on to today's episode.

1:46.0

Patrick Gay, welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future.

1:49.2

Congratulations on a great book, Get In.

1:52.8

Where did the name come from?

1:55.3

We were in the offices of our publisher, Penguin,

2:00.4

about 14, 15 months ago now, late 2023.

2:04.9

And we wrote a book about the Corbyn Project and its Declin Fulke, Left Out.

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