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Today in Focus

Inside the Islamic State prisons the west is trying to forget

Today in Focus

The Guardian

Daily News, News

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Michael Safi travelled to north-east Syria to speak to IS foreign fighters imprisoned there. And discovered that a change in the US administration, and USAid funding cuts, means there is a growing fear of prison breaks. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:08.2

Today, inside the Islamic State prisons, the West is trying to forget.

0:19.8

Most of us are getting screwed over.

0:23.4

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0:28.8

But how are they getting away with it?

0:31.6

I'm Ash Sarka, and in my book Minority Rule, I show you how minority elites rule majorities by creating the

0:39.4

culture wars that have taken over our politics, stoking fear and panic in our media landscape.

0:46.9

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0:50.5

So we're walking over to the prison now and we've been told basically we'll be able to

0:59.0

talk to the prisoners, say whatever we want, just have conversations with them.

1:04.0

But they've asked us to follow one condition, which is that these prisoners have no idea

1:10.0

what's happening in the outside world, including

1:12.6

that Bashar al-Assad's regime has fallen. And they've asked us not to tell them that because

1:18.5

they don't know how it might motivate them. And so it's bizarre to think that something as

1:25.0

momentous as that has happened. They have no idea, but those are the rules.

1:30.6

A few weeks ago, I was being given a rare tour around a prison in the northeast Syrian desert.

1:37.1

It's home to more than 4,000 men, and allegedly some boys, accused of joining the militant group

1:43.3

Islamic State about a decade ago when it ruled

1:46.4

this area. Just being let in now. Guards with their faces covered by balaclavas took me through

1:54.4

one locked door after another. I can just hear the din behind these heavy metal doors of each cell.

2:04.4

Being taken for cell number 11, they're opening up from the patch inside.

2:11.2

They swung open a small grate to show me the crowded cell inside, And I felt this surge of body heat

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