Inside the Mind of a Killer Breaking Down Lori Vallow’s Bizarre Claims
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
3 • 791 Ratings
🗓️ 11 March 2025
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Summary
Did Lori Vallow ever have a moment of clarity, realizing the horrors she allegedly orchestrated? Or is she so deeply entrenched in her delusions that reality never stands a chance?
Psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott joins Tony Brueski to break down the tangled web of psychological dysfunction surrounding Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell, and Alex Cox. Was Cox simply a suggestible follower, or did he share the same dangerous delusions? And what about Chad—was he just another grandiose manipulator who found the perfect storm in Lori? The conversation dives into the eerie world of shared psychosis, the cult-like mindset that kept them insulated from reality, and the tragic fallout for the victims’ families.
Meanwhile, Lori remains unfazed, seemingly unfaltering in her beliefs, even as her world crumbles around her. But will Chad’s children ever wake up to the truth about their father? And how do we, as a society, determine when someone’s beliefs cross the line from eccentric to dangerous?
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. |
| 0:03.2 | Here now, Tony Bruske. |
| 0:06.3 | What about Alex Cox in his role in all of this? |
| 0:10.1 | Number one, this is rare to have a brain that's working this way. |
| 0:16.5 | Did all three of their brains misfire in this same sort of way? |
| 0:20.3 | Do they all have this disease? Or are some not, |
| 0:24.5 | you know, we're not at the level that she's at? Right. And this is only speculation on my part, |
| 0:31.5 | not having met them. It seems like Alex Cox was very suggestible and followed along as if, you know, one of the cult members was he as ill as Lori did not seem to be, but again, they are biologically related. So is it possible? |
| 0:52.4 | It is, I think it is possible that he had a similar brain in that way |
| 0:56.6 | and was prone to this. As far as Chad, you know, just my sense of watching him, he was more the |
| 1:07.7 | personality of just wanting to be the cult leader and coming up with ways to control |
| 1:12.3 | and manipulate people. You can look at these things on a continuum. Was he as delusional as Lori? Or was he |
| 1:21.3 | just, you know, grandiose and, you know, driven to take over. |
| 1:29.4 | It's hard for me to tell. |
| 1:35.6 | It certainly could be that these two pieces of chaos just found each other and then accelerated the process mutually. |
| 1:39.0 | There's actually a term for that. |
| 1:40.6 | It's called filet-a-dough. |
| 1:41.9 | It's when two people share delusional thinking. And I don't think |
| 1:45.7 | we know as much about his, you know, his way of really processing and you'd have to talk with him |
| 1:52.7 | to get a better sense of that. Like if you went into one of these end of days seminars or conferences |
| 1:59.6 | that happened, like Chad was hawking his books at where they met |
| 2:03.1 | if you were to just go through there and like if you come like nobody's leaving the room everyone's |
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