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Hi, it's Todd Bishop.

Welcome to Geekwire.

We are coming to you this week from the Showbox Soto, the historic music venue south

of downtown Seattle, where this week we are hosting the Geekwire Gala, our annual holiday

celebration, which includes a recognition of five of the Seattle region's uncommon thinkers,

inventors, scientists, technologists, and entrepreneurs who are transforming industries and driving

positive change in the world. This is a great program presented in partnership with greater

Seattle partners. On today's episode, we're going to be talking with several of our

uncommon thinkers honorees in areas including fusion energy. And as it turned out, my

longtime collaborator, Brian Nelson from the University of Washington, was also a big fan of Frank Zapp.

And so when we got together and decided, what are we going to name our experiment? It was just

obvious. It was going to be ZAP.

Commercial space.

I think space is a critical pillar for our civilization being able to scale in a way that's

also sustainable.

But I think those big visions are multi-generational problems.

And for those to get solved, what we really need is a scalable, vibrant economy that is self-fulfilling.

Advanced protein design.

So the enzyme that we used is an enzyme that already works really well in acidic and warm conditions.

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