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Instrument Pilot IFR Tips – Using GPS on a VOR or ILS approach, Foreflight + GA News

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4.8730 Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2017

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Last week we talked about briefing the approach and said one of the first things you should do is check to see whether GPS is in the title of the approach. For example, you might look to see whether the title is just VOR 21 approach or if it’s VOR 21 OR GPS. If it’s the latter, it’s obvious you can use GPS in lieu of a VOR signal for the entire approach. But what’s less clear is when you can use GPS for a portion of the approach if it says just VOR 21 and doesn’t have GPS in the title of the approach. Although GPS receivers have been around for over 20 years, pilots are still unclear as to when they can use GPS on non-GPS approaches such as ILS and VOR approaches. As Max explains, the rules are different for VOR and ILS approaches. The regulatory basis can be found in FAA Advisory Circular AC 90-108, dated March 3, 2011, and in the AIM, the Aeronautical Information Manual, in section 1-2-3, sub-paragraphs c4 and c-5, updated May 26, 2016. These tell us that for a VOR or NDB approach, you can now use GPS for the entire approach, even if GPS is not listed in the title of the approach. So in our example, if the title of the approach is VOR 21, and GPS is not in the title, you can still now use GPS for the entire approach, but with one caveat. The VOR or NDB signal MUST be in service, and you MUST monitor that signal for the final approach course. But for an ILS or Localizer approach, as soon as you turn onto a localizer or ILS, you need to display course guidance from the Nav radio. On the Garmin 430/530, that means as soon as you turn onto the localizer, you must push the CDI button so VLOC is displayed. You can, if you wish, monitor RNAV (GPS) data as you fly along a localizer, but GPS cannot be used for primary guidance at any time while on a localizer. Click here for the listener survey. Tell us what what ADS-B portable receiver you own or plan to buy, and what you like and dislike about it. Please visit my new Patreon page and make a contribution to help me with my goal of improving the AviationNewsTalk.com website. You can Dictate a listener question from your phone and I’ll try to answer it on a future show, or send an email. News Stories

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0:00.0

Hello, and thank you for joining me for episode 35 of the Aviation News Talk podcast.

0:06.9

Coming up in the news, an airliner takes evasive action to avoid a GA aircraft near a major U.S. city.

0:13.6

And there's been a lot of talk this past week about the NFL, but you probably haven't heard this story.

0:18.6

It's the FAA saying that it's okay to fly banners with rude comments over a particular U.S.

0:24.0

football stadium.

0:25.2

And we have not one but two stories of pilots saying that general aviation is being wrecked by regulation and fees in their countries.

0:32.8

And one of those countries just had a major meltdown of their radar system last week.

0:37.4

And a former FAA

0:38.7

controlled tower in a big U.S. city is becoming a restaurant. Then later we'll be talking about

0:44.4

when you have to switch from GPS to a VOR navigation receiver when you're flying a VOR,

0:50.3

localizer, ILS, or LDA approach. Welcome to Aviation News Talk where we talk about.

0:56.0

What else, general aviation?

0:57.9

I'm Max Frescott.

0:59.0

I'm here to help you fly more safely as a pilot or maybe a student pilot by sharing

1:03.0

my over 40 years of experience as a certificated pilot, author, and 2008 national flight

1:08.6

instructor of the year when I was selected to represent that 96,000

1:12.4

flight instructors here in the U.S.

1:14.5

Now, last week, we talked about how to prioritize your activities when flying IFR and about how

1:20.3

to work your way through an instrument approach chart to brief an approach.

1:24.0

If you miss that episode, please check it out.

1:26.5

We have so much coming up, and it all starts now.

1:59.3

From ArrowNews.com. From ArrowNews.net comes the story that United Airlines Boeing 737 and route to Chicago O'Hare from Vancouver, Canada, on Monday reportedly had to take evasive action to avoid colliding with a glider near the destination airport.

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