From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.

You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

A production of IHeart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

My name is Matt.

Our colleague Ben is on an adventure, but you are you.

You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

We're also joined by our super producer, Andrew.

Were we calling him now?

Tri-Force.

The freight train.

Tri-Force Howard.

And we are bringing in new energy to this episode because we are joined by someone very, very special,

someone we've been wanting to talk to for quite a while, ever since we had a conversation with Jason Flom on this show. You might recognize her voice when you hear

it for the first time from her work as host and producer of wrongful conviction alongside

Jason. You might know her voice from the Pulitzer Prize winning podcast, Suave, that we just saw Maria from Suave at On Air Fest very recently.

You might also know her from her work as an intern at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

That's mainly where my background is.

That's a deep cut.

Hey, hey, hold that. Hold on. You may, but primarily you might know her from

Up and Vanished Weekly, the new true crime show that's a spinoff of Up and Vanished from Tenderfoot TV.

Welcome, Maggie Freeling. Oh, man. Welcome. That was a lot to like keep, keep myself from yelling during, but the deep cut fish and wildlife is, is wild.

It's important, especially in these are trying times where that kind of stuff's getting, what, like eliminated entirely potentially?

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