Hi everyone it's your very classy host Jonathan glad to know you're still here I'm coming to you today because there's a

podcast I want to tell you about that I think you're really going to love if you're into

our show it's called This is Uncomfortable. It's a

podcast from Marketplace about the unexpected ways money can shape our

relationships, identities, and the choices we make. It's hosted by Rima Hrace and we're going to play an episode for you in it you'll meet Kashi Kagan he was an aspiring pop star who poured everything he had,

including all of his money into making it big.

And he gave himself a deadline.

He said, you're going to be a pop star by this point. But then it didn't work out and he hung up his mic for good

until he got this unexpected email a few years later from halfway around the world and it really totally changed everything for him.

If you'd like to hear more episodes from Rima and the team, you can find this is uncomfortable

wherever you get your podcasts. And here's the show.

Ever since he was little, Kashi Kagan had just one dream.

So the dream was to be heard, you know, for someone to listen and, and I wanted to do it as a career, right? I wanted to be a recording artist and that is a big dream of obviously.

When he was in his early 20s, he put everything into music all his money his time I didn't

socialize at all when I wasn't working I would be in my parents living room writing songs.

He was living with his parents in England and working in a hospital.

Some of that money went towards helping them with their bills and mortgage,

but everything else went towards making songs.

He'd rent out a recording studio that had discounted rates for a very specific reason.

The studio, it was a converted toilet actually in, yeah, it was called the loop hole.

But initially I thought he, he said the loo-hole.

Kashi didn't have a lot of knowledge of the music industry.

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