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Is beer better without alcohol?

CrowdScience

BBC

Science, Technology

4.8985 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In the past stout beer has been touted for its supposed health benefits. Is there any truth to those claims - and what happens if you take the alcohol out?

CrowdScience listener Aengus pondered these questions down at the pub, after noticing most of his friends were drinking non-alcoholic beers. He wondered how the non-alcoholic stuff is made – what’s taken out and what’s added in – and whether the final product is better for you than the alcoholic version.

It’s a question that takes us to Belgium, home to the experimental brewery of a global drinks company which takes the growing market for alcohol-free beer very seriously. David De Schutter, head of research and development, shows host Marnie Chesterton how to take alcohol out of beer without spoiling the flavour.

We also find our way to a yeast lab in Leuven, Belgium where Kevin Verstrepen and his team have found another way to make alcohol-free beer with the help of industrious microbes: yeast varieties that brew beer without producing any alcohol in the first place. And how do they compare to the alcoholic versions? We discuss the importance of aromas in our perception of beer’s taste.

So should listener Aengus stick to non-alcoholic stout? We speak to scientist Tim Stockwell about the health drawbacks of alcohol, even in moderation. And gut microbiome researcher Cláudia Marques fills us in on her delicious pilot study, which looked at the effects of both non-alcoholic and alcoholic beers on our digestive tract.

Along the way, Marnie taste-tests what's on the market, and asks the experts why this particular grocery shelf has become so much bigger and more flavourful in recent years.

Presenter: Marnie Chesterton Producer: Sam Baker Editor: Cathy Edwards Production co-ordinator: Ishmael Soriano Technical producers: Giles Aspen, Andrew Garratt and Donald MacDonald

(Image: Close-up of waitress holding craft beer at bar, Brazil Credit: FG Trade via Getty Images)

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So I can smell. There's something. It's not quite as much as the first one with the alcohol.

0:48.9

No. We want to have a gentle touch. It's also not supposed to be exactly the same. We want to have a great tasting beer. So you see the bitterness is more balanced.

0:58.0

There's more sweetness back as well.

1:00.0

The aroma is really bringing the beer experience back.

1:03.0

Hello and welcome to Crowd Science from the BBC World Service.

1:07.0

I'm Marnie Chesterton. And that is the serious business of beer tasting, in a

1:13.3

brewery in Belgium, no less. More on that later, because crowd science is the science show

1:19.4

inspired by a listener question. And the reason we're here is thanks, and I do mean thanks,

1:25.7

to a question from listener Angus in North County, Dublin,

1:29.5

Ireland.

1:30.2

Recently I went out for a few pints and I was intrigued that out of the five of us, three of us

1:37.3

had ordered non-alcoholic beers. Now personally myself, I drink non-alcoholic stout.

1:47.5

And it got me thinking about this because many years ago when I was a child, I had my appendix out. And when I came home from hospital,

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