Hi, I'm Anouche. I'm Rachel. And on today's episode of The New Statesman Podcast,

we discuss how Boris Johnson is trying to relaunch himself after the confidence vote,

and you ask us, why are his MPs still backing him?

So, I'm back. Thank you so much for holding down the fort in a very quiet couple of days of

politics, really. I mean, it was just so easy for you guys to be honest. I thought that your

discussions about the confidence vote were really interesting, and now we're in the aftermath.

Boris Johnson's attempting a relaunch, he's announcing some new housing policy today.

And we don't know the details of that yet, so we won't unpick that in any detail at the moment.

But Harry... Number 10 of the details. Yeah, that probably is part of why we don't know the detail

yet, as well. But it doesn't really look like Boris Johnson is necessarily going to be safe

for a year, which is sort of if the rules were going to work, how the rules work, that should be

the case. Is that right, Harry? Yes, I think there's a lot of talk around this.

Boris Johnson, as far as I understand it, does believe he's safe for a year,

and he's wrong to do so, because first of all, there are no strict rules about how

the 1922 or the Tory party operate. This is all really convention or sort of lower case

or rules. Can I do a part to the Caribbean reference? Sure.

They're more like guidelines anyway.

Sorry, continue. Exactly. It's like when you went to Blockbuster and bought things in

you'd say to your mum, this is just a recommendation that you be 18 to watch this.

And if you do look at those rules, then in theory, for good reason, he's safe for a year,

because you can't have no confidence votes every other week. But in reality,

as I think we've been reporting for a while, as soon as the majority of Tory MPs want another

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