Is Boris Johnson ... back?
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🗓️ 20 March 2025
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Summary
The prospect of peace in Ukraine, Liz Kendall's welfare cut announcements, and while Kemi Badenoch flails as Conservative leader ... who's waiting around the corner for her job?
Hannah Barnes is joined by Andrew Marr and Rachel Cunliffe to discuss this week in Westminster and beyond.
Read: A Labour welfare revolt is still brewing, Diane Abbott rails against Keir Starmer, What went wrong for Kemi Badenoch?, Who could succeed Kemi Badenoch?
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| 0:29.9 | The New Statesman. |
| 0:35.0 | Hello, I'm Hannah Barnes and this is Politics from the new statesman where every Thursday we bring you the latest from Westminster and beyond. |
| 0:44.1 | Today I'm joined by our political editor, Andrew Marr, and our associate political editor, Rachel Cunleve. |
| 0:49.5 | Hello, hello, hello, hello. |
| 0:50.6 | Hello. |
| 0:51.7 | Right, let's lead off with the biggest international story of the week, the year, the future of Ukraine. And it boils down thus far to two telephone conversations, really. In a call between Trump and Putin, the Russian leader rejected a complete ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, but ostensibly agreed to pause hitting Ukraine's energy infrastructure, |
| 1:12.6 | but then seemed to break those terms just a few hours later. The second call between Zelensky |
| 1:18.6 | and Trump appears to have gone far better than their feisty face-to-face meeting in the Oval Office a few weeks ago, |
| 1:24.8 | with both leaders describing their hour-long call as very good and |
| 1:29.1 | positive. Proposals, it seems, that the US would take over control of Ukraine's nuclear sites, |
| 1:35.9 | perhaps something else as well. Andrew, what are we to make of this? I mean, I don't know. Are we |
| 1:41.9 | on the verge of some kind of truce? I desperately hope so, |
| 1:45.9 | but I think the sensible answer right now is no, because if you look at what Putin has actually |
| 1:51.7 | given Trump, it is squit, it's zip, it's nothing. He said that he will have a pause on hitting |
| 1:59.3 | infrastructure project and then, as you say, broke |
| 2:02.4 | that within a very short period of time, perhaps because the message hadn't got through |
| 2:06.6 | to the Russian military command in time. |
| 2:08.6 | And the Russians say they did shoot down some of their own drones overnight to try |
| 2:12.6 | and stop that happening. |
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