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Is Elon Musk calculated or crazed? Walter Isaacson on his new book

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🗓️ 14 September 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Our guest on this special episode is journalist and biographer Walter Isaacson, whose new book about Elon Musk, the SpaceX and Tesla founder and X (Twitter) owner, was published this week. Isaacson addresses the question of whether Musk is "calculated or crazed," as one anecdote in the book puts it; discusses Musk's role in some of the world's most vital infrastructure, including SpaceX's Starlink satellites; compares Musk's approach and style to Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos; addresses Musk's outlook on artificial intelligence and space travel; and outlines the key issues that could determine Musk's legacy.

With GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop. Edited and produced by Curt Milton.

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0:00.0

I think there'll be three or four things that'll determine his legacy.

0:06.0

Getting Starship not only launched in the space, but eventually on a mission that takes at least cargo and perhaps humans to Mars.

0:17.6

He thinks it'll be in 10 years, I suspect, much longer than that.

0:21.7

Elon Musk has a talent for turning the impossible into the merely much later than he thought it would be. Welcome to GeekWire, I'm GeekWire, co-founder Todd Bishop.

0:40.0

Our guest on this special episode is journalist and biographer Walter

0:43.7

Isakson, whose new book about SpaceX and Tesla founder and Twitter owner or

0:49.6

ex-owner, Elon Musk was published this week.

0:53.3

Walter Isaacson, thank you for joining us.

0:55.7

It's great to be back with you.

0:57.4

Early in your book about Elon Musk, you paraphrase the technology executive Max Levchin, asking what seems to be the defining question of Elon Musk's career and life.

1:09.0

Were his bouts of maniacal intensity punctuated by goofball humor and game playing calculated or crazed.

1:18.7

What can you say to that after spending two years with Elon Musk and writing more than 600 pages about him.

1:24.0

I think the answer is that he's actually crazed.

1:27.0

He's one of the crazy ones, as Steve Jobs would say,

1:30.0

crazy enough to think he can change the world.

1:32.0

He's got so many personalities too.

1:34.0

He can switch from being a goofball,

1:37.2

sophomore humor laughing at fart jokes,

1:40.4

and then go dark and just be pretty maniacal and I don't think it's calculated in fact at times I don't think he can help himself his father

1:50.3

Errol said that about himself about Errol, which is at times I'd just go dark and you cannot help

1:56.8

yourself from going into one of these moods like Jekyll and Hyde.

2:00.9

So Elon Musk is calculated about a lot of things but not about his mood swings.

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