One of the things I struggle with is listening to guys like Alex Hermose talk about this topic at their age because so much of where this gets really intense is as you get older.

Hi, welcome to the Family Teams podcast. Our goal here is to help your family become a multi-generational team on mission by providing you with biblically rooted concepts,

tools, and rhythms. Your hosts are Jeremy Pryor and Jefferson Bethke, and we can't wait to

chat about all things family. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the podcast. So we're going to talk about

some fatherhood topics today. I'm joined by Riley Pilgrim and Chris Sorillo. Thank you guys so much for

jumping on here today. Thank you. Yeah. Glad to be here. A lot of you guys, I think, are familiar with

Chris. He has recently published a book. So head over to missionfit.co slash book. It's called

the Missionfit Father. And you can get the Kindle and the

Audible edition on there. The print version is coming soon. We're waiting for Riley and his wife

to work on their elderberry company. We'll be talking about that soon. Awesome. Thanks. Yeah.

So guys, we need to talk about this perspective of fatherhood that, you know, I, there is a kind of like, it isn't often explicitly stated. I believe it's almost always implicitly believed by highly ambitious people that there is sort of a, it's sort of a waste to build a multi-generational legacy. It doesn't

really work anymore. And so it oftentimes isn't explicitly stated, but recently Alex Harmosi,

a lot of you guys are, I'm sure, familiar with him. He just explicitly said it. And it sort of

started a discussion. I wanted to get Riley,

Chris, your guys' take on this, and then kind of dive into some thoughts that I've been having on

this area. So I'll just kind of frame this up. So Alex tweeted out this, your great, great

grandchildren probably won't have your last name, look like you, or even know your name. And if you dedicate your entire

life to helping them, you might as well just help other people now and enjoy the benefits now.

Better to live your legacy than leave one. So his point is, if you really are to do the cost-benefit analysis of spending a lot of time

focusing on your kids and your grandchildren, you're not going to get as much benefit in this life

as you would if you focused on others, other people, is what he's saying. And I think there's

some truth to that. It takes faith in the future and an understanding that what we're trying to

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