Hello, hello, this is Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking a book,

which tells us the definitive account of this Labour government, and we're only six months in.

I'm joined in the studio by Times columnist Patrick McGuire.

Hello, Patrick.

Good morning, Hugo.

Welcome back.

And Sunday Times Whitehall editor, Gabriel programmed.

Hello, Gabriel.

Hi. And we're here to talk about your book called Get In. Still funny. Still funny every time we do it. Let's do it again. Give us another one. inside story of Labour under Morgan McSweeney. And if you don't know him, he is the chief of staff

in Downing Street. We haven't been able to find any audio of Morgan McSweeney, which is quite telling.

Isn't that fascinating? A man of 48 years old who was worked in politics his entire life, I think

there is one, sorry not to do down your excellent producers, I think there is one audio clip. I've

never listened to it. I've been a shocked look through the glass now. Sharing a labour

together panel in 2019. I've never heard it myself. It's just a rumor.

But you've met him, you've spoken to him. Could you do an impression of him?

I'd say Morgan Sweeney speaks a bit like this. He'd say, Hugo, I can't comment publicly on the radio.

Right. That's a terrible. That's not a cork.

You know, Irish listeners will, you know, note that that is not a cork accent.

It's a generic Irish accent. But he, you know, there's a cliche about Morgan McSweeney.

Whenever you write about him, you have to say he's a softly spoken Irishman.

He's Irish. put it that way. Let's save that clip of Patrick doing Morgan McSweeney,

find the real clip of Morgan McSweeney,

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