If anything, we should make more things smell like vaginas. And with that, I will see myself out.

Welcome to your wrong about. I'm Sarah Marshall, and today we have a special spring cleaning episode with our home economics correspondent, Sarah Archer. About this time last year, Sarah came on to talk about the trad wife, and now we're going on a thought cruise through the history of cleanliness and the rise of clean talk.

And we are going to be asking the question, how clean is clean enough and how clean is too clean?

I loved this conversation because it felt like part of a bigger conversation that I'm always having with Sarah Archer about our

relationships with our houses and cleaning and cooking and gender and the politics of

everyday life. And it just remains completely fascinating to me. So I hope you have a good time

listening. And we also,

if you are tickled by this episode, have a fun bonus that Sarah Archer was on recently about

Peg Bracken and the I Hate to Cookbook, one of my personal favorites. Our most recent bonus episode,

by the way, is our March bonus on Marilyn Monroe's dress and the time Kim Kardashian wore it.

That's a wonderful conversation that I got to have with Carolina, Donahue, and Eve Lindley.

You can find bonus episodes on Apple Plus subscriptions and Patreon, and you can find our newest episode right here, right now. Here you go. Thank you for being here.

Welcome to your wrong about the podcast where we ask you, isn't your house clean enough already? It probably is.

And what's the historical precedent for all of this cleaning? And when can we stop? And with me today is our

home and garden correspondent, Sarah Archer. Hello, Sarah Marshall. Hello. How are you doing?

I am doing okay. How are you doing in these strange times?

Oh, you know. Just toddling into spring.

I do know.

Right. And that's part of our topic.

That is part of our topic. Health, human services, things of this nature.

Yes.

Things that we do to distract ourselves when things are weird.

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