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The Bulwark Podcast

Isaac Arnsdorf and Joe Perticone: Trying to Finish What They Started

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Steve Bannon fueled the rise of MAGA by offering true believers a sense of community and purpose. A new book tells the story of ordinary Americans swept up in the movement. Plus, hanging out at the DC jail with the Jan 6 choir, and the House drama over Ukraine and FISA. Isaac Arnsdorf and Joe Perticone join Tim Miller.

show notes:

Isaac's book, "Finish What We Started"

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast I'm your host Tim Miller. We got a double

0:11.3

header for you today up first Joe Perico and our man on Capitol Hill.

0:15.0

He was hanging outside the DC prison, you know, listening to that January 6th prison choir.

0:21.0

They're beautiful, their beautiful tones last night.

0:24.6

So I want to ask him about that.

0:25.5

After that on the other side, we got Isaac Arnsdorf,

0:28.0

Washington Post reporter, has got a new book out.

0:30.5

He was on the ground in Arizona, so we've got some Arizona talk. He's got some new reporting about what the Trump team is thinking their plans are for Ukraine. So big show Joey P. Thanks for getting on the pod bro.

0:40.0

Glad to be on again. So talk to us last night. Was there singing? Was there a choir?

0:46.0

There were like five people there. Why were you one of the five people outside the DC prison?

0:50.0

They are there every single night. been there every single night since August

0:54.2

2022 and I was like, I've been meeting to go, the weather's been bad in DC and I was like,

1:00.6

so might as well pop down once it gets nice.

1:02.5

It was nice last night.

1:04.0

There were a handful of them.

1:05.3

They have the inmates call in and they have a phone held up to the mic

1:10.7

and then the inmates talk to the

1:15.0

Mike and then the inmates talk to the attendees and then at one point like the call dropped which was blamed on the FBI and to the eclipse.

1:19.0

The FBI and the eclipse?

1:21.0

Yeah, it's kind of of real life manifestation of all the weird things that you see online.

1:27.0

A lot of these people spend all their time online. One of the guys who organizes the live streams told me that he's in an Airbnb right now, but he was camping like in the woods near DC from April to November and kind of lives off of donations or little things he sells

1:46.6

from his merch store, which is like January 6th attire.

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