Welcome back to Pod Save the World, I'm Ben Rhodes and Tommy is out today. So we have a very special guest host, a great friend of mine, an incredible journalist. Ali Valshi is here with us. Ali, welcome to Pazzo the world.

Thank you. This is super exciting for me to be on with you.

Thank you. Well, it's funny because I go on your show sometimes and you ask me questions

and now we get to kind of turn the tables around a little bit.

I love it.

As you I'm sure know, Ali's an MSNBC anchor of Velshi. Importantly, he is also the author of a new book small acts of courage a legacy of

endurance in the fight for democracy which is an extraordinary book about an

extraordinary family story that we'll get to but I just want to congratulate you on

writing this is not your kind of typical cable host memoir this is like a really compelling story and I knew a little bit about

your family background now we'll get into it later but uh congratulations you

must feel good about finishing that I am very very excited you know books are like renovations right like I'm on one hand I'm excited that today's the book launch

But I'm also excited that means there's no more no more book stuff to do and when I've forgotten to how much went into that I that'll be when I start forgotten how much went into that,

that'll be when I start to consider another book.

I admire people, you just, you know,

put out books on a regular basis.

I'm not one of them.

Well, this is a good one.

Everybody should pick it up.

But today, first, we're going to talk about the latest news out of Gaza, including the kind of back and forth on a potential ceasefire and hostage deal, the potential Rafa invasion, could be happening at least in some kind of

motion as we speak the US response to those things including President Biden

making some comments today,

as well as the recent decision by Israel

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